You aren't that present mate - wake up - I am called Mark and you are reying to Marko - if you haven't got the distinction O - y'u w'n't have learned much fr'm th'se b''ks
Sent fr'm an iPh'ne On 29 Jul 2010, at 23:33, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > Marko, > > I am in the witness state. > I would still be a witness even if I am hung, drawn and quartered. > I will still be a witness if I am crucified. > I am in the eternal state. > Since the present moment is what has always existed, I have been in this > state for billions of eons. > I will be in the eternal state in what you call the future as well. > But since the present moment only can always exist, there is no such thing as > future and past. > It is an eternally still ocean of bliss in which I happen to know that I am > at present. > But in some time, the "I am" knowledge will also dissolve and all that remain > will be pure awareness > which does not even know that "it is". > The "I am" ness is the culprit which creates all the nuisance for everyone. > Ignore it. > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > wrote: > Someone should hang you RS > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 29 Jul 2010, at 13:47, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Bob is angry. >> Anger comes out of ignorance. >> Angry means angry at something. >> That implies subject object which is ignorance. >> Bob is an ignorant person and has to come out of his illusion. >> So my sincere advise to Bob is, abide in the Self or fuck off. >> >> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mahakali <[email protected]> wrote: >> Shut it. >> >> Bob has got every right to come up with whatever bother him. >> >> This is not AdvaitaNow where we can only come up with Advaitical >> stuff... >> >> Are you part of the Advaita Police? >> >> :-) >> >> Kali >> >> On 29 Lug, 13:55, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Don't spin your yarn here Bob. This is not a group for psychological >> > support >> > and counselling. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Well, now that I have slept on it ................ >> > >> > > "You really have missed the entire point of that part of the >> > > teaching!" >> > >> > > I'm guessing the above was directed towards me. >> > > Well, like I pointed out before. >> > > I spent 45 years candy coating, avoiding conflict and confrontation. >> > > Trying to keep every one happy and oh ya, in love with Bob. >> > > I not long ago realized that. >> > > I'm just now taking ownership of my own life. >> > > It actually feels pretty good ......... really pretty great. >> > > I really haven't missed the point. >> > > This is changing and has changed everything ....... for me. >> > > It's not about my employee's motivation or work ethics. >> > > Sure they are taking advantage as Mahakali pointed out .... it's human >> > > nature. >> > > They took advantage because I allowed it. >> > > It's about me regaining ownership of the company. >> > > If I couldn't own my own life and be true to myself, I certainly >> > > couldn't with a company. >> > > I've allowed this to happen and now I'm going to take it back. >> > > See ............. this was good. >> > >> > > On Jul 29, 3:58 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Good morning,Bob. >> > > > Read through the responses from others...a gold mine of info there.In >> > > > your own posts as well. >> > > > Hope today is a better day for you. >> > >> > > > On Jul 29, 2:29 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > You really have missed the entire point of that part of the teaching! >> > >> > > > > Sent from an iPhone >> > >> > > > > On 29 Jul 2010, at 06:11, roomsearching <[email protected]> >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > > > > There is no office and there are no employees. >> > > > > > There are no responsibilities. >> > > > > > There is only the Self. >> > > > > > The whole universe resides in your heart. >> > > > > > Let the mind dive into your heart. >> > > > > > Just be. >> > >> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Sandeep-Kuber Technologies < >> > > [email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > Hiya Bob, >> > >> > > > > > Some two bits from one who has run task forces, simultaneously >> > > located >> > > > > > in different countries. >> > >> > > > > > Bob1357 wrote: >> > >> > > > > >> I am having a little..... no ...... a lot of difficulty today with >> > > > > >> anger. >> > > > > >> I gave my employees a priority list today. >> > > > > >> A list geared so that a ten year old could understand it. >> > >> > > > > > Yep. >> > >> > > > > > But did you ensure that they got "your" priorities? >> > >> > > > > > It is very interesting that even with the seniors in your >> > > team......how there is a wide encompassing difference between what you >> > > are >> > > outlaying and what is getting heard as being outlayed. >> > >> > > > > > What is agreed to be done and what gets done finally is often a >> > > yawning gap. >> > >> > > > > >> Nothing was done in order, nothing was done correctly and most of >> > > what >> > > > > >> I asked was not done at all. >> > >> > > > > > Aah well...very familiar space. >> > >> > > > > > Was it something like a day project or several days project? >> > >> > > > > > Depending on how crucial the project is, I always insisted on >> > > immediate, short term milestones..... >> > > > > > ...so that there is a possibility of mid-course >> > > corrections/appropriate actions to be taken. >> > >> > > > > > The mile-stones could as short-term as who does what, immediately >> > > after then meeting is over and people troop >> > > > > > back to their work-stations. >> > >> > > > > > Or what must happen in the immediate 1 hour, mid-day, end of day, >> > > mid-week, end of week etc etc. >> > >> > > > > > You cannot monitor what you cannot measure. >> > >> > > > > > Obviously the level of micro-planning depends on the complexity and >> > > importance of the project.... >> > > > > > ....but sometimes I would insist on such mile-stones related >> > > time-lines even in the most ordinary of projects so that we all learnt to >> > > work with the same methodology and focus, irrespective of the >> > > importance/scope of the project. >> > >> > > > > > And each missed mile-stone.........must ring a bell somewhere. >> > >> > > > > > You cannot try to plug a breach when the dam has totally cracked >> > > > > > up. >> > >> > > > > >> I completely exploded when I showed up at the job site this >> > > afternoon. >> > > > > >> I was furious. >> > > > > >> I don't do furious and I don't explode. >> > >> > > > > > So obviously, something "more" was/had got compromised. >> > >> > > > > > What was that? >> > >> > > > > >> Perhaps things are coming to a head and I am realizing that I can >> > > not >> > > > > >> rely on others. >> > >> > > > > > That might be an assessment that needs to be made when things are >> > > more settled... >> > > > > > ..you may have to weed out the weeds in your team. >> > >> > > > > > And start with the weeds in oneself. >> > >> > > > > > After all the team that you have is the team that you had all the >> > > time until now. >> > >> > > > > >> One thing that really gets me bent is the fact that they are all >> > > > > >> so >> > > > > >> much in the dark. >> > > > > >> Eating, drinking, fucking, and sleeping is all they seem to care >> > > > > >> about. >> > >> > > > > > Why on earth should they care about anything else? >> > >> > > > > > For them, the job with you is a means to doing stuff. >> > >> > > > > > Is it not so for you, just that the stuff-to-be-done may be >> > > > > > somewhat >> > > different to those listed? >> > >> > > > > > If for you, the job.......is a completion in itself.... >> > >> > > > > > ...then you have to show that to your team.......as the quality of >> > > oneself. >> > >> > > > > >> There like animals at times. Me me me mine mine mine >> > > > > >> Perhaps I need "employees" with a raised or slightly higher >> > > > > >> consciousness than what my current employees have. >> > >> > > > > > :-)) >> > >> > > > > > Good luck. >> > >> > > > > > Share, your pay-offs with your team and show how in your pay-off, >> > > lies their pay-offs. >> > >> > > > > >> I have pointed to the problems over and over but they just don't >> > > seem >> > > > > >> to get it or care. >> > > > > >> Perhaps my standards are too high. >> > > > > >> Perhaps it is all my fault for letting fuck ups and mistakes slide >> > > so >> > > > > >> easily. >> > > > > >> Perhaps they have learned that they can get away with what ever >> > > > > >> they >> > > > > >> want because Bob is nice. >> > >> > > > > > Yes. >> > >> > > > > > How far the envelope can be pushed......is always the game getting >> > > played out. >> > >> > > > > > Why were you being nice, when faced with incompetence or neglect? >> > >> > > > > > What was in it for you? >> > >> > > > > >> I do believe that within all this chaos there is something >> > > unraveling. >> > > > > >> Unfortunately I am so filled with anger and a sense of betrayal >> > > > > >> that >> > > I >> > > > > >> can not see it. >> > >> > > > > > Can you see the anger and sense of betrayal? >> > >> > > > > > Be with that. >> > >> > > > > > And see what is it that you are really pissed off at.......what is >> > > > > > it >> > > that really has got betrayed. >> > >> > > > > >> I am confused at how I can let another influence my mood today. >> > >> > > > > > Eh? >> > >> > > > > > How else are any moods generated, except as an impact of an other? >> > >> > > > > >> I am not an angry person. >> > > > > >> My head hurts. >> > > > > >> Just venting, thanks to those for reading. >> > > > > >> Sorry for being so much off the subject of non- dual, but that is >> > > one >> > > > > >> of the things that is bothering me too. >> > > > > >> I mean, seeing them fuck up and act so irresponsibly ...... Is >> > > > > >> that >> > > > > >> part of me? >> > >> > > > > > It's really not them........but the fuck-up that has taken place in >> > > you, through the acts of the others. >> > >> > > > > > What is that? >> > >> > > > > >> Do I actually have some of those qualities? >> > > > > >> Am I to learn from this and find these hidden quirks within and >> > > > > >> correct them? >> > >> > > > > > Sure. >> > >> > > > > > If you are moved to. >> > >> > > > > > The other as a mirror is always something to be grateful >> > > > > > to.......for >> > > it is the other which exposes oneself. >> > >> > > > > >> Ok ...... Now my head hurts more. >> > >> > > > > > Take a long walk. >> > >> > > > > > And then sit with some of the finest Lagavulin and get amused with >> > > the comedy of it all.- Nascondi testo citato >> > >> > - Mostra testo citato - >> >
