Marcus, what do you get out of this?
On Aug 6, 3:22 am, "Hughes, Marcus" <[email protected]> wrote: > Roomsearching, what do you get out of this. They are laughing at you and > using you as the fool. > You present yourself as the hopeless case and they enjoy that, it makes them > feel clever. > > There is a better way ....... Please trust someone. Please let someone help > you. > > You don't have to be angry. > > . > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: roomsearching [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 05 August 2010 17:18 > To: Hughes, Marcus > Cc: Advaita-Zen > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Marcus > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > . > > Roomsearching why ??? > > "It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as well." > > Your words can be so elegant and inspiring. Why do you repeatedly > destroy your magic. What forces inside you create beauty, then spoil > it. > > The insults roomsearching, why ??? > > Marcus, if you notice, I have spelt ignoramus as ignoranus. > Don't you think that is beautiful ? > > . > > On Aug 5, 12:56 pm, roomsearching > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Hi Kali, > > > > Might have been the way you have said. As I said before I like to show > > > off my igneranse. Did I do a Rodger ? :) > > > It is spelt as ignorance. I know spelling is not important but don't be so > > ignorant about English language. > > It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as well. > > > > On Aug 4, 5:39 pm, Mahakali > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Hi Anandanand > > > > > it is the other way round. The philosophy of Advaita with its doctrine > > > > of non-doership came before the doctrine of karma. > > > > > Respectfully... > > > > > Kali > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:19 pm, Anandanand > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > We still have Kings, but they are known by different names. > > > > > > I didn't get what is the doctrine of no-personal-choice. If that is > > > > > no- > > > > > doer-nothing getting done, then as per my knowledge this was to arrest > > > > > the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I am not an expert on > > > > > that. > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:59 pm, Mahakali > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > People go to the Courts and Judges of their own countries with the > > > > > > expectation of seeing justice done. What they actually find is a > > > legal > > > > > > system that favours the ones who can afford the best QC and knows > > > > > > how > > > > > > to "the system works" (timeframes, arguments, negotiations, delays > > > etc > > > > > > etc). In most cases, justice is not done and is not even seen to be > > > > > > done. > > > > > > > Hence, the reason many people resort to religion for justice i.e. in > > > > > > the hope to get justice in an afterlife. > > > > > > > Also, don't forget that the doctrine of Karma was created shortly > > > > > > after the doctrine of no-personal-choice was created. The Kings were > > > > > > worried that, if people would think that the people were allowed to > > > do > > > > > > whatever they wanted, they feared that the poor would revolt > > > > > > against > > > > > > them. Hence, they paid (bribed) the Brahmins who come out with the > > > > > > idea that if the untouchables were so poor was because of something > > > > > > they did in their previou lives (law of karma). As the masses > > > > > > trusted > > > > > > and believed their Brahmins, they accepted to continue to live in > > > > > > their low conditions and to live in poverty because the Brahmins > > > > > > said > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > A > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:30 am, Anandanand > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are concerned, > > > then, I > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a country, it > > > would be > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant to > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole. > > > > > > > > So is Religion. The Judiciary has it's own drawback, so does > > > religion. > > > > > > > The difference being, the things are tangible, in most cases, in > > > > > > > Judiciary, where as they are mostly intangible in the case of > > > > > > > religion, making it in the form of beliefs. All this IMO. > > > > > > > > In most places in the world, Judiciary has it's benifits. And > > > places > > > > > > > where it doesn't, are mostly in chaos. > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 12:14 pm, Mahakali > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are concerned, > > > then, I > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a country, it > > > would be > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant to > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole. > > > > > > > > > However, I do not see them as "beliefs" , I see them more as > > > > > > > > instruments as part of the machinery put in place to run > > > society.And, > > > > > > > > of course, there is the right and the wrong of any law or > > > regulation > > > > > > > > and this can be taken personally or not as a belief or a > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > stand. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 6:46 am, Anandanand > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > > > > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion included)" > > > > > > > > > > Do you say the same for the trafic rules or the penal code ? I > > > think > > > > > > > > > not, just because that will penalise you materially. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:04 am, Mahakali > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion included)" as > > > in every > > > > > > > > > > possible thing. However,I suppose that when I say "I do not > > > believe in > > > > > > > > > > anything" I do not really mean as in "in anything" or > > > "completely". I > > > > > > > > > > still have my attachments but I do not have, anylonger, > > > "strong" > > > > > > > > > > beliefs of any sort. > > > > > > > > > > > I tend to question more often than I should. > > > > > > > > > > > You know the saying "when you see a Buddha in the road, kill > > > him > > > > > > > > > > (metaphorically)". > > > > > > > > > > > Yours > > > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 10:56 pm, Rodger > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Kali, when you say you do not believe in anything, are you > > > meaning you > > > > > > > > > > > do not believe in any particular religion,or do you really > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > > anything...at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 4:26 am, Mahakali > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel like doing a RS: > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no Religion > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no belief.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: raised and brought up as Roman Catholic. My beliefs > > > were many, > > > > > > > > > > > > but, nowadays, I cannot say I believe in anything at all > > > (seriously!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 11:04 am, Mark Ty-Wharton < > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we all are, from different countries, discussing > > > spirituality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I am wondering... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What Religion were you brought up with? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you believe now? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from an iPhone- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > If you believe this email is spam please click on this link Report as > spam<https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/wQw0zmjPoHdJTZGyOCrrhg==>. > > The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. 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