. Rodger,
I do this because of what it says on the label. Advaita-Zen google discussion group. That’s what this is remember .. This is not a forum foe insulting others. A chance for cowards blood- let into others without face to face reality. Or for onlookers to watch the fool and laugh. Like the court jester playing the fool. This is only perverse ego's at work. Roomsearching needs help ……………… continuous insults is the sign of a broken spirit. We all need help from time to time ……… it’s having the courage to ask !!!! Rodger please don't suggest that continious insults are in any way associated with inner peace. Please ............. . On Aug 6, 11:06 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > Marcus, what do you get out of this? > > On Aug 6, 3:22 am, "Hughes, Marcus" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Roomsearching, what do you get out of this. They are laughing at you and > > using you as the fool. > > You present yourself as the hopeless case and they enjoy that, it makes > > them feel clever. > > > There is a better way ....... Please trust someone. Please let someone > > help you. > > > You don't have to be angry. > > > . > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: roomsearching [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 05 August 2010 17:18 > > To: Hughes, Marcus > > Cc: Advaita-Zen > > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Marcus > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > . > > > Roomsearching why ??? > > > "It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as well." > > > Your words can be so elegant and inspiring. Why do you repeatedly > > destroy your magic. What forces inside you create beauty, then spoil > > it. > > > The insults roomsearching, why ??? > > > Marcus, if you notice, I have spelt ignoramus as ignoranus. > > Don't you think that is beautiful ? > > > . > > > On Aug 5, 12:56 pm, roomsearching > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > Might have been the way you have said. As I said before I like to show > > > > off my igneranse. Did I do a Rodger ? :) > > > > It is spelt as ignorance. I know spelling is not important but don't be so > > > ignorant about English language. > > > It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as well. > > > > > On Aug 4, 5:39 pm, Mahakali > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > Hi Anandanand > > > > > > it is the other way round. The philosophy of Advaita with its doctrine > > > > > of non-doership came before the doctrine of karma. > > > > > > Respectfully... > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:19 pm, Anandanand > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > We still have Kings, but they are known by different names. > > > > > > > I didn't get what is the doctrine of no-personal-choice. If that is > > > > > > no- > > > > > > doer-nothing getting done, then as per my knowledge this was to > > > > > > arrest > > > > > > the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I am not an expert > > > > > > on > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:59 pm, Mahakali > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > People go to the Courts and Judges of their own countries with the > > > > > > > expectation of seeing justice done. What they actually find is a > > > > legal > > > > > > > system that favours the ones who can afford the best QC and knows > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > to "the system works" (timeframes, arguments, negotiations, delays > > > > etc > > > > > > > etc). In most cases, justice is not done and is not even seen to > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > Hence, the reason many people resort to religion for justice i.e. > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the hope to get justice in an afterlife. > > > > > > > > Also, don't forget that the doctrine of Karma was created shortly > > > > > > > after the doctrine of no-personal-choice was created. The Kings > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > worried that, if people would think that the people were allowed > > > > > > > to > > > > do > > > > > > > whatever they wanted, they feared that the poor would revolt > > > > > > > against > > > > > > > them. Hence, they paid (bribed) the Brahmins who come out with the > > > > > > > idea that if the untouchables were so poor was because of > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > they did in their previou lives (law of karma). As the masses > > > > > > > trusted > > > > > > > and believed their Brahmins, they accepted to continue to live in > > > > > > > their low conditions and to live in poverty because the Brahmins > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > A > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:30 am, Anandanand > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are concerned, > > > > then, I > > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a country, it > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant to > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole. > > > > > > > > > So is Religion. The Judiciary has it's own drawback, so does > > > > religion. > > > > > > > > The difference being, the things are tangible, in most cases, in > > > > > > > > Judiciary, where as they are mostly intangible in the case of > > > > > > > > religion, making it in the form of beliefs. All this IMO. > > > > > > > > > In most places in the world, Judiciary has it's benifits. And > > > > places > > > > > > > > where it doesn't, are mostly in chaos. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 12:14 pm, Mahakali > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand > > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are concerned, > > > > then, I > > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a country, it > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant to > > > > > > > > > allow > > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole. > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not see them as "beliefs" , I see them more as > > > > > > > > > instruments as part of the machinery put in place to run > > > > society.And, > > > > > > > > > of course, there is the right and the wrong of any law or > > > > regulation > > > > > > > > > and this can be taken personally or not as a belief or a > > > > > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > stand. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 6:46 am, Anandanand > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion included)" > > > > > > > > > > > Do you say the same for the trafic rules or the penal code > > > > > > > > > > ? I > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > not, just because that will penalise you materially. > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:04 am, Mahakali > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion included)" > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > in every > > > > > > > > > > > possible thing. However,I suppose that when I say "I do > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > believe in > > > > > > > > > > > anything" I do not really mean as in "in anything" or > > > > "completely". I > > > > > > > > > > > still have my attachments but I do not have, anylonger, > > > > "strong" > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs of any sort. > > > > > > > > > > > > I tend to question more often than I should. > > > > > > > > > > > > You know the saying "when you see a Buddha in the road, > > > > > > > > > > > kill > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > (metaphorically)". > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours > > > > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 10:56 pm, Rodger > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kali, when you say you do not believe in anything, are > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > meaning you > > > > > > > > > > > > do not believe in any particular religion,or do you > > > > > > > > > > > > really > > > > mean > > > > > > > > > > > > anything...at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 4:26 am, Mahakali > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel like doing a RS: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no Religion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no belief.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: raised and brought up as Roman Catholic. 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