RS, would you mind clarifying something for me?
When you say you told the group by mistake that you are self-
realized,are you saying you now consider it a mistake to have told the
group that,or are you saying that now you do not consider yourself as
self-realized...that it was a mistake to think that you are/were?





On Aug 6, 8:51 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:
> > .
>
> > “narcissistic personality disorder.”
>
> Vijaya Senthil Kumar tried to convince me a couple of times through
> personally emailing me that I have narcissistic personality disorder when I
> told the group here by mistake that I am self-realized.  Before I mentioned
> that, everything was fine. Nobody had  a problem with me.
>
>
>
> > Roomsearching is this humour  ???
>
> It is not humour.
>
>
>
> > Do you find this to be a laugh  ???
>
> Why are you so bitter ?
>
>
>
> > Does aggression please you ????
>
> Why are you so aggressive ?
>
>
>
>
>
> > .
>
> > On Aug 6, 12:43 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Marcus <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > .
>
> > > > Rodger,
>
> > > > I do this because of what it says on the label.
>
> > > > Advaita-Zen google discussion group.    That’s what this is
> > > > remember ..
>
> > > What have you done in Advaita or Zen to discuss about ?
> > > Can you explain some of your personal spiritual experiences ?
>
> > > > This is not a forum foe  insulting others.  A chance for cowards blood-
> > > > let into others without face to face reality.   Or for onlookers to
> > > > watch the fool and laugh.  Like the court jester playing the fool.
> > > > This is only perverse ego's at work.
>
> > > Sometimes I have posted very good things from Nisargadatta's or Ramana's
> > > books.
> > > They were not appreciated. Someone said "post your own opinions , don't
> > post
> > > this old shit".
> > > I have been extremely disappointed with such an attitude. Why didn't you
> > say
> > > something when such things happen ?
> > > You are just angry because your ego is being overshadowed by my Supreme
> > > personality.
>
> > > > Roomsearching needs help ………………  continuous insults is the sign of a
> > > > broken spirit.
>
> > > The mind is definitely in a disturbed state after realization.
> > > Manonasa implies destruction of the mind.
> > > But it does not have much power because the Self is in control.
> > > Someone already said that I had a narcissistic personality disorder.
> > > Someone said I have rejection issues and childhood abuse issues and that
> > I
> > > am gay.
> > > Now you say I have a broken spirit.
> > > I would not give a shit about whatever these people said even if they
> > were
> > > certified psychiatrists.
> > > Of course, they would demand a fee from me to give me such judgements.
> > > You guys are giving it to me for free. You could not save your lives with
> > > your smattering of psychology.
>
> > > > We all need help from time to time ……… it’s having the courage to
> > > > ask !!!!
> > > > What help can you offer me ?  I am in a state where I need no more help
> > > > from anyone.
>
> > > > Rodger please don't suggest that continious insults are in any way
> > > > associated with inner peace.
>
> > > Do you think slicing a cat in half is a sign of inner peace ? Have you
> > seen
> > > UG's videos on youtube? Continuous idiocy requires continuous insults.
>
> > > > Please .............
>
> > > You must have a very terrible sense of humour.
>
> > > > .
>
> > > > On Aug 6, 11:06 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Marcus, what do you get out of this?
>
> > > > > On Aug 6, 3:22 am, "Hughes, Marcus" <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Roomsearching,  what do you get out of this.  They are laughing at
> > you
> > > > and using you as the fool.
> > > > > > You present yourself as the hopeless case and they enjoy that, it
> > makes
> > > > them feel clever.
>
> > > > > > There is a better way .......  Please trust someone. Please let
> > someone
> > > > help you.
>
> > > > > > You don't have to be angry.
>
> > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: roomsearching [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > Sent: 05 August 2010 17:18
> > > > > > To: Hughes, Marcus
> > > > > > Cc: Advaita-Zen
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question
>
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Marcus <
> > [email protected]
> > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > Roomsearching   why ???
>
> > > > > > "It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as
> > well."
>
> > > > > > Your words can be so elegant and inspiring.   Why do you repeatedly
> > > > > > destroy your magic.  What forces inside you create beauty, then
> > spoil
> > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > The insults roomsearching, why ???
>
> > > > > > Marcus, if you notice, I have spelt ignoramus as ignoranus.
> > > > > > Don't you think that is beautiful ?
>
> > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > On Aug 5, 12:56 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]<mailto:
> > > > [email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Kali,
>
> > > > > > > > Might have been the way you have said. As I said before I like
> > to
> > > > show
> > > > > > > > off my igneranse. Did I do a Rodger ? :)
>
> > > > > > > It is spelt as ignorance. I know spelling is not important but
> > don't
> > > > be so
> > > > > > > ignorant about English language.
> > > > > > > It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as
> > well.
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 5:39 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]<mailto:
> > > > [email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand
>
> > > > > > > > > it is the other way round. The philosophy of Advaita with its
> > > > doctrine
> > > > > > > > > of non-doership came before the doctrine of karma.
>
> > > > > > > > > Respectfully...
>
> > > > > > > > > Kali
>
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:19 pm, Anandanand <[email protected]<mailto:
> > > > [email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > We still have Kings, but they are known by different names.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I didn't get what is the doctrine of no-personal-choice. If
> > > > that is no-
> > > > > > > > > > doer-nothing getting done, then as per my knowledge this
> > was to
> > > > arrest
> > > > > > > > > > the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I am not an
> > > > expert on
> > > > > > > > > > that.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:59 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]
> > <mailto:
> > > > [email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > People go to the Courts and Judges of their own countries
> > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > expectation of seeing justice done. What they actually
> > find
> > > > is a
> > > > > > > > legal
> > > > > > > > > > > system that favours the ones who can afford the best QC
> > and
> > > > knows how
> > > > > > > > > > > to "the system works" (timeframes, arguments,
> > negotiations,
> > > > delays
> > > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > > > > > > etc). In most cases, justice is not done and is not even
> > seen
> > > > to be
> > > > > > > > > > > done.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Hence, the reason many people resort to religion for
> > justice
> > > > i.e. in
> > > > > > > > > > > the hope to get justice in an afterlife.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Also, don't forget that the doctrine of Karma was created
> > > > shortly
> > > > > > > > > > > after the doctrine of no-personal-choice was created. The
> > > > Kings were
> > > > > > > > > > > worried that, if people would think that the people were
> > > > allowed to
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > whatever they wanted, they feared that  the poor would
> > revolt
> > > > against
> > > > > > > > > > > them. Hence, they paid (bribed) the Brahmins who come out
> > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > idea that if the untouchables were so poor was because of
> > > > something
> > > > > > > > > > > they did in their previou lives (law of karma). As the
> > masses
> > > > trusted
> > > > > > > > > > > and believed their Brahmins, they accepted to continue to
> > > > live in
> > > > > > > > > > > their low conditions and to live in poverty because the
> > > > Brahmins said
> > > > > > > > > > > so.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Love
>
> > > > > > > > > > > A
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:30 am, Anandanand <[email protected]
> > <mailto:
> > > > [email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kali,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are
> > > > concerned,
> > > > > > > > then, I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a
> > > > country, it
> > > > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are
> > meant
> > > > to allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > So is Religion. The Judiciary has it's own drawback, so
> > > > does
> > > > > > > > religion.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The difference being, the things are tangible, in most
> > > > cases, in
> > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary, where as they are mostly intangible in the
> > case
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > religion, making it in the form of beliefs. All this
> > IMO.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > In most places in  the world, Judiciary has it's
> > benifits.
> > > > And
> > > > > > > > places
> > > > > > > > > > > > where it doesn't, are mostly in chaos.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 12:14 pm, Mahakali <
> > [email protected]
> > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are
> > > > concerned,
> > > > > > > > then, I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a
> > > > country, it
> > > > > > > > would be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are
> > meant
> > > > to allow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not see them as "beliefs" , I see them
> > more
> > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > instruments as part of the machinery put in place to
> > run
> > > > > > > > society.And,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of course, there is the right and the wrong of any
> > law or
> > > > > > > > regulation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and this can be taken personally or not as a belief
> > or a
> > > > personal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > stand.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
>
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