*It was a mistake to tell the group that I am self realized because some people got jealous and jumped on me to prove that I am not. I don't know if you have the sensitivity to notice that but a couple of people like Vijaya, Kuber and some Ram guy (Indian cunts as I called them) started arguing with me about it. If you remember, I also got into a fight with you because you were supporting Sandeep at that time for some **reason. Probably you were just seeking attention.But I also called you several names which you might have found a bit bitter to deal with.So that whole episode was related to me making a statement that I am self-realized. But there is no doubt that I am self-realized. But if I go around telling this to all the people, they will think I am a nutter. There is a famous case of David Icke who went on British television to announce that he is the son of God. People immediately started laughing at him. This is why you always have to be careful about this stuff. It is a grave mistake to tell people about this stuff because people expect you to either have miraculous powers or a flamboyant personality to go with that enlightenment. I dont have both. So it is better to shut the fuck up . Because enlightenment is a personal thing and needs no proof from anyone and it can also be a bit hard to prove it to others, especially those who are not enlightened because skepticism and jealousy are like stone walls. *
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > RS, would you mind clarifying something for me? > When you say you told the group by mistake that you are self- > realized,are you saying you now consider it a mistake to have told the > group that,or are you saying that now you do not consider yourself as > self-realized...that it was a mistake to think that you are/were? > > > > > > On Aug 6, 8:51 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > . > > > > > “narcissistic personality disorder.” > > > > Vijaya Senthil Kumar tried to convince me a couple of times through > > personally emailing me that I have narcissistic personality disorder when > I > > told the group here by mistake that I am self-realized. Before I > mentioned > > that, everything was fine. Nobody had a problem with me. > > > > > > > > > Roomsearching is this humour ??? > > > > It is not humour. > > > > > > > > > Do you find this to be a laugh ??? > > > > Why are you so bitter ? > > > > > > > > > Does aggression please you ???? > > > > Why are you so aggressive ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > On Aug 6, 12:43 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Marcus <[email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > . > > > > > > > Rodger, > > > > > > > I do this because of what it says on the label. > > > > > > > Advaita-Zen google discussion group. That’s what this is > > > > > remember .. > > > > > > What have you done in Advaita or Zen to discuss about ? > > > > Can you explain some of your personal spiritual experiences ? > > > > > > > This is not a forum foe insulting others. A chance for cowards > blood- > > > > > let into others without face to face reality. Or for onlookers to > > > > > watch the fool and laugh. Like the court jester playing the fool. > > > > > This is only perverse ego's at work. > > > > > > Sometimes I have posted very good things from Nisargadatta's or > Ramana's > > > > books. > > > > They were not appreciated. Someone said "post your own opinions , > don't > > > post > > > > this old shit". > > > > I have been extremely disappointed with such an attitude. Why didn't > you > > > say > > > > something when such things happen ? > > > > You are just angry because your ego is being overshadowed by my > Supreme > > > > personality. > > > > > > > Roomsearching needs help ……………… continuous insults is the sign of > a > > > > > broken spirit. > > > > > > The mind is definitely in a disturbed state after realization. > > > > Manonasa implies destruction of the mind. > > > > But it does not have much power because the Self is in control. > > > > Someone already said that I had a narcissistic personality disorder. > > > > Someone said I have rejection issues and childhood abuse issues and > that > > > I > > > > am gay. > > > > Now you say I have a broken spirit. > > > > I would not give a shit about whatever these people said even if they > > > were > > > > certified psychiatrists. > > > > Of course, they would demand a fee from me to give me such > judgements. > > > > You guys are giving it to me for free. You could not save your lives > with > > > > your smattering of psychology. > > > > > > > We all need help from time to time ……… it’s having the courage to > > > > > ask !!!! > > > > > What help can you offer me ? I am in a state where I need no more > help > > > > > from anyone. > > > > > > > Rodger please don't suggest that continious insults are in any way > > > > > associated with inner peace. > > > > > > Do you think slicing a cat in half is a sign of inner peace ? Have > you > > > seen > > > > UG's videos on youtube? Continuous idiocy requires continuous > insults. > > > > > > > Please ............. > > > > > > You must have a very terrible sense of humour. > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 11:06 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Marcus, what do you get out of this? > > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 3:22 am, "Hughes, Marcus" <[email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Roomsearching, what do you get out of this. They are laughing > at > > > you > > > > > and using you as the fool. > > > > > > > You present yourself as the hopeless case and they enjoy that, > it > > > makes > > > > > them feel clever. > > > > > > > > > There is a better way ....... Please trust someone. Please let > > > someone > > > > > help you. > > > > > > > > > You don't have to be angry. > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: roomsearching [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > > > Sent: 05 August 2010 17:18 > > > > > > > To: Hughes, Marcus > > > > > > > Cc: Advaita-Zen > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Marcus < > > > [email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > Roomsearching why ??? > > > > > > > > > "It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as > > > well." > > > > > > > > > Your words can be so elegant and inspiring. Why do you > repeatedly > > > > > > > destroy your magic. What forces inside you create beauty, then > > > spoil > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > The insults roomsearching, why ??? > > > > > > > > > Marcus, if you notice, I have spelt ignoramus as ignoranus. > > > > > > > Don't you think that is beautiful ? > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 12:56 pm, roomsearching <[email protected] > <mailto: > > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > > > > > > > Might have been the way you have said. As I said before I > like > > > to > > > > > show > > > > > > > > > off my igneranse. Did I do a Rodger ? :) > > > > > > > > > > It is spelt as ignorance. I know spelling is not important > but > > > don't > > > > > be so > > > > > > > > ignorant about English language. > > > > > > > > It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 5:39 pm, Mahakali <[email protected] > <mailto: > > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand > > > > > > > > > > > > it is the other way round. The philosophy of Advaita with > its > > > > > doctrine > > > > > > > > > > of non-doership came before the doctrine of karma. > > > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully... > > > > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:19 pm, Anandanand <[email protected] > <mailto: > > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > We still have Kings, but they are known by different > names. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get what is the doctrine of > no-personal-choice. If > > > > > that is no- > > > > > > > > > > > doer-nothing getting done, then as per my knowledge > this > > > was to > > > > > arrest > > > > > > > > > > > the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I am > not an > > > > > expert on > > > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:59 pm, Mahakali <[email protected] > > > <mailto: > > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People go to the Courts and Judges of their own > countries > > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > > > > expectation of seeing justice done. What they > actually > > > find > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > > > > > > system that favours the ones who can afford the best > QC > > > and > > > > > knows how > > > > > > > > > > > > to "the system works" (timeframes, arguments, > > > negotiations, > > > > > delays > > > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > etc). In most cases, justice is not done and is not > even > > > seen > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, the reason many people resort to religion for > > > justice > > > > > i.e. in > > > > > > > > > > > > the hope to get justice in an afterlife. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, don't forget that the doctrine of Karma was > created > > > > > shortly > > > > > > > > > > > > after the doctrine of no-personal-choice was created. > The > > > > > Kings were > > > > > > > > > > > > worried that, if people would think that the people > were > > > > > allowed to > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever they wanted, they feared that the poor > would > > > revolt > > > > > against > > > > > > > > > > > > them. Hence, they paid (bribed) the Brahmins who come > out > > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > > > > idea that if the untouchables were so poor was > because of > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > they did in their previou lives (law of karma). As > the > > > masses > > > > > trusted > > > > > > > > > > > > and believed their Brahmins, they accepted to > continue to > > > > > live in > > > > > > > > > > > > their low conditions and to live in poverty because > the > > > > > Brahmins said > > > > > > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:30 am, Anandanand <[email protected] > > > <mailto: > > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations > are > > > > > concerned, > > > > > > > > > then, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a > > > > > country, it > > > > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They > are > > > meant > > > > > to allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So is Religion. The Judiciary has it's own > drawback, so > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The difference being, the things are tangible, in > most > > > > > cases, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary, where as they are mostly intangible in > the > > > case > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > religion, making it in the form of beliefs. All > this > > > IMO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In most places in the world, Judiciary has it's > > > benifits. > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > places > > > > > > > > > > > > > where it doesn't, are mostly in chaos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 12:14 pm, Mahakali < > > > [email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations > are > > > > > concerned, > > > > > > > > > then, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a > > > > > country, it > > > > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They > are > > > meant > > > > > to allow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not see them as "beliefs" , I see > them > > > more > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instruments as part of the machinery put in place > to > > > run > > > > > > > > > society.And, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of course, there is the right and the wrong of > any > > > law or > > > > > > > > > regulation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and this can be taken personally or not as a > belief > > > or a > > > > > personal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > ... > > > > read more »
