Thanks,RS.Yes,I do remember calling each other names.So,no need to
remind me of it,dumb shit.  :)  I also recall having lot's of fun with
it.And by the way,I don't think Ram is Indian.Not saying he can't be a
cunt now and again,though.And a cunt is a cunt...right?

As far as people getting jealous,I don't know.Can't say.Not
interested.

And as far as you being self-realized,I have no problem with that.Is
not really my concern.Besides,I am self-realized,too....and the son of
God.In fact,I think all of us are.Not that all of us realize that.

I still support Sandeep but,that does not mean I agree with everything
he says.Hell,half the time I can't even understand what he is
saying.Not that it ain't purty,tho.I support you,too.Shit,man...I am
just one mighty pillar of support...being enlightened and all.

:)





On Aug 6, 10:49 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
> *It was a mistake to tell the group that I am self realized because some
> people got jealous and jumped on me to prove that I am not. I don't know if
> you have the sensitivity to notice that but a couple of people like Vijaya,
> Kuber and some Ram guy (Indian cunts as I called them)
> started arguing with me about it. If you remember, I also got into a fight
> with you because you were supporting Sandeep at that time for some **reason.
> Probably you were just seeking attention.But I also called you several names
> which you might have found a bit bitter to deal with.So that whole episode
> was related to me making a statement that I am self-realized.
> But there is no doubt that I am self-realized. But if I go around telling
> this to all the people, they will think I am a nutter. There is a famous
> case of David Icke who went on British television to announce that he is the
> son of God. People immediately started laughing at him. This is why you
> always have to be careful about this stuff. It is a grave mistake to tell
> people about this stuff because people expect you to either have miraculous
> powers or a flamboyant personality to go with that enlightenment. I dont
> have both. So it is better to shut the fuck up .
> Because enlightenment is a personal thing and needs no proof from anyone and
> it can also be a bit hard to prove it to others, especially those who are
> not enlightened because skepticism and jealousy are like stone walls.  *
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote:
> > RS, would you mind clarifying something for me?
> > When you say you told the group by mistake that you are self-
> > realized,are you saying you now consider it a mistake to have told the
> > group that,or are you saying that now you do not consider yourself as
> > self-realized...that it was a mistake to think that you are/were?
>
> > On Aug 6, 8:51 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Marcus <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > .
>
> > > > “narcissistic personality disorder.”
>
> > > Vijaya Senthil Kumar tried to convince me a couple of times through
> > > personally emailing me that I have narcissistic personality disorder when
> > I
> > > told the group here by mistake that I am self-realized.  Before I
> > mentioned
> > > that, everything was fine. Nobody had  a problem with me.
>
> > > > Roomsearching is this humour  ???
>
> > > It is not humour.
>
> > > > Do you find this to be a laugh  ???
>
> > > Why are you so bitter ?
>
> > > > Does aggression please you ????
>
> > > Why are you so aggressive ?
>
> > > > .
>
> > > > On Aug 6, 12:43 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Marcus <[email protected]
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > Rodger,
>
> > > > > > I do this because of what it says on the label.
>
> > > > > > Advaita-Zen google discussion group.    That’s what this is
> > > > > > remember ..
>
> > > > > What have you done in Advaita or Zen to discuss about ?
> > > > > Can you explain some of your personal spiritual experiences ?
>
> > > > > > This is not a forum foe  insulting others.  A chance for cowards
> > blood-
> > > > > > let into others without face to face reality.   Or for onlookers to
> > > > > > watch the fool and laugh.  Like the court jester playing the fool.
> > > > > > This is only perverse ego's at work.
>
> > > > > Sometimes I have posted very good things from Nisargadatta's or
> > Ramana's
> > > > > books.
> > > > > They were not appreciated. Someone said "post your own opinions ,
> > don't
> > > > post
> > > > > this old shit".
> > > > > I have been extremely disappointed with such an attitude. Why didn't
> > you
> > > > say
> > > > > something when such things happen ?
> > > > > You are just angry because your ego is being overshadowed by my
> > Supreme
> > > > > personality.
>
> > > > > > Roomsearching needs help ………………  continuous insults is the sign of
> > a
> > > > > > broken spirit.
>
> > > > > The mind is definitely in a disturbed state after realization.
> > > > > Manonasa implies destruction of the mind.
> > > > > But it does not have much power because the Self is in control.
> > > > > Someone already said that I had a narcissistic personality disorder.
> > > > > Someone said I have rejection issues and childhood abuse issues and
> > that
> > > > I
> > > > > am gay.
> > > > > Now you say I have a broken spirit.
> > > > > I would not give a shit about whatever these people said even if they
> > > > were
> > > > > certified psychiatrists.
> > > > > Of course, they would demand a fee from me to give me such
> > judgements.
> > > > > You guys are giving it to me for free. You could not save your lives
> > with
> > > > > your smattering of psychology.
>
> > > > > > We all need help from time to time ……… it’s having the courage to
> > > > > > ask !!!!
> > > > > > What help can you offer me ?  I am in a state where I need no more
> > help
> > > > > > from anyone.
>
> > > > > > Rodger please don't suggest that continious insults are in any way
> > > > > > associated with inner peace.
>
> > > > > Do you think slicing a cat in half is a sign of inner peace ? Have
> > you
> > > > seen
> > > > > UG's videos on youtube? Continuous idiocy requires continuous
> > insults.
>
> > > > > > Please .............
>
> > > > > You must have a very terrible sense of humour.
>
> > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > On Aug 6, 11:06 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Marcus, what do you get out of this?
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 6, 3:22 am, "Hughes, Marcus" <[email protected]
>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Roomsearching,  what do you get out of this.  They are laughing
> > at
> > > > you
> > > > > > and using you as the fool.
> > > > > > > > You present yourself as the hopeless case and they enjoy that,
> > it
> > > > makes
> > > > > > them feel clever.
>
> > > > > > > > There is a better way .......  Please trust someone. Please let
> > > > someone
> > > > > > help you.
>
> > > > > > > > You don't have to be angry.
>
> > > > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: roomsearching [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > > > Sent: 05 August 2010 17:18
> > > > > > > > To: Hughes, Marcus
> > > > > > > > Cc: Advaita-Zen
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question
>
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Marcus <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > > > Roomsearching   why ???
>
> > > > > > > > "It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as
> > > > well."
>
> > > > > > > > Your words can be so elegant and inspiring.   Why do you
> > repeatedly
> > > > > > > > destroy your magic.  What forces inside you create beauty, then
> > > > spoil
> > > > > > > > it.
>
> > > > > > > > The insults roomsearching, why ???
>
> > > > > > > > Marcus, if you notice, I have spelt ignoramus as ignoranus.
> > > > > > > > Don't you think that is beautiful ?
>
> > > > > > > > .
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 12:56 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]
> > <mailto:
> > > > > > [email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Kali,
>
> > > > > > > > > > Might have been the way you have said. As I said before I
> > like
> > > > to
> > > > > > show
> > > > > > > > > > off my igneranse. Did I do a Rodger ? :)
>
> > > > > > > > > It is spelt as ignorance. I know spelling is not important
> > but
> > > > don't
> > > > > > be so
> > > > > > > > > ignorant about English language.
> > > > > > > > > It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as
> > > > well.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 5:39 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]
> > <mailto:
> > > > > > [email protected]>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand
>
> > > > > > > > > > > it is the other way round. The philosophy of Advaita with
> > its
> > > > > > doctrine
> > > > > > > > > > > of non-doership came before the doctrine of karma.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Respectfully...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Kali
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:19 pm, Anandanand <[email protected]
> > <mailto:
> > > > > > [email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > We still have Kings, but they are known by different
> > names.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get what is the doctrine of
> > no-personal-choice. If
> > > > > > that is no-
> > > > > > > > > > > > doer-nothing getting done, then as per my knowledge
> > this
> > > > was to
> > > > > > arrest
> > > > > > > > > > > > the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I am
> > not an
> > > > > > expert on
> > > > > > > > > > > > that.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:59 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]
> > > > <mailto:
> > > > > > [email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > People go to the Courts and Judges of their own
> > countries
> > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > expectation of seeing justice done. What they
> > actually
> > > > find
> > > > > > is a
> > > > > > > > > > legal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > system that favours the ones who can afford the best
> > QC
> > > > and
> > > > > > knows how
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to "the system works" (timeframes, arguments,
> > > > negotiations,
> > > > > > delays
> > > > > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > etc). In most cases, justice is not done and is not
> > even
> > > > seen
> > > > > > to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > done.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, the reason many people resort to religion for
> > > > justice
> > > > > > i.e. in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the hope to get justice in an afterlife.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, don't forget that the doctrine of Karma was
> > created
> > > > > > shortly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > after the doctrine of no-personal-choice was created.
> > The
> > > > > > Kings were
> > > > > > > > > > > > > worried that, if people would think that the people
> > were
> > > > > > allowed to
> > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever they wanted, they feared that  the poor
> > would
> > > > revolt
> > > > > > against
> > > > > > > > > > > > > them. Hence, they
>
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