'Can you explain some of your personal spiritual experiences'? That would be a bit difficult to do if there is no personal,no spiritual,etc..Besides,the explanation isn't as important as the outcome.Is just another story among many.Do not really impress me much anymore.Not even my own.
'I have been extremely disappointed...' Comes from expectations.We set ourselves up.Ego gets let down. 'The mind is definitely in a disturbed state after realization'. Then I voice A's sentiments...who needs it? I have not found that to be the case. The disturbed mind has yet to realize...something. :) On Aug 6, 6:43 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > . > > > Rodger, > > > I do this because of what it says on the label. > > > Advaita-Zen google discussion group. That’s what this is > > remember .. > > What have you done in Advaita or Zen to discuss about ? > Can you explain some of your personal spiritual experiences ? > > > This is not a forum foe insulting others. A chance for cowards blood- > > let into others without face to face reality. Or for onlookers to > > watch the fool and laugh. Like the court jester playing the fool. > > This is only perverse ego's at work. > > Sometimes I have posted very good things from Nisargadatta's or Ramana's > books. > They were not appreciated. Someone said "post your own opinions , don't post > this old shit". > I have been extremely disappointed with such an attitude. Why didn't you say > something when such things happen ? > You are just angry because your ego is being overshadowed by my Supreme > personality. > > > > > Roomsearching needs help ……………… continuous insults is the sign of a > > broken spirit. > > The mind is definitely in a disturbed state after realization. > Manonasa implies destruction of the mind. > But it does not have much power because the Self is in control. > Someone already said that I had a narcissistic personality disorder. > Someone said I have rejection issues and childhood abuse issues and that I > am gay. > Now you say I have a broken spirit. > I would not give a shit about whatever these people said even if they were > certified psychiatrists. > Of course, they would demand a fee from me to give me such judgements. > You guys are giving it to me for free. You could not save your lives with > your smattering of psychology. > > > > > We all need help from time to time ……… it’s having the courage to > > ask !!!! > > What help can you offer me ? I am in a state where I need no more help > > from anyone. > > > Rodger please don't suggest that continious insults are in any way > > associated with inner peace. > > Do you think slicing a cat in half is a sign of inner peace ? Have you seen > UG's videos on youtube? Continuous idiocy requires continuous insults. > > > > > Please ............. > > You must have a very terrible sense of humour. > > > > > > > . > > > On Aug 6, 11:06 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Marcus, what do you get out of this? > > > > On Aug 6, 3:22 am, "Hughes, Marcus" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Roomsearching, what do you get out of this. They are laughing at you > > and using you as the fool. > > > > You present yourself as the hopeless case and they enjoy that, it makes > > them feel clever. > > > > > There is a better way ....... Please trust someone. Please let someone > > help you. > > > > > You don't have to be angry. > > > > > . > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: roomsearching [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: 05 August 2010 17:18 > > > > To: Hughes, Marcus > > > > Cc: Advaita-Zen > > > > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Marcus <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > . > > > > > Roomsearching why ??? > > > > > "It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as well." > > > > > Your words can be so elegant and inspiring. Why do you repeatedly > > > > destroy your magic. What forces inside you create beauty, then spoil > > > > it. > > > > > The insults roomsearching, why ??? > > > > > Marcus, if you notice, I have spelt ignoramus as ignoranus. > > > > Don't you think that is beautiful ? > > > > > . > > > > > On Aug 5, 12:56 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]<mailto: > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > > > Might have been the way you have said. As I said before I like to > > show > > > > > > off my igneranse. Did I do a Rodger ? :) > > > > > > It is spelt as ignorance. I know spelling is not important but don't > > be so > > > > > ignorant about English language. > > > > > It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as well. > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 5:39 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]<mailto: > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand > > > > > > > > it is the other way round. The philosophy of Advaita with its > > doctrine > > > > > > > of non-doership came before the doctrine of karma. > > > > > > > > Respectfully... > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:19 pm, Anandanand <[email protected]<mailto: > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > We still have Kings, but they are known by different names. > > > > > > > > > I didn't get what is the doctrine of no-personal-choice. If > > that is no- > > > > > > > > doer-nothing getting done, then as per my knowledge this was to > > arrest > > > > > > > > the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I am not an > > expert on > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:59 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]<mailto: > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > People go to the Courts and Judges of their own countries > > with the > > > > > > > > > expectation of seeing justice done. What they actually find > > is a > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > > > system that favours the ones who can afford the best QC and > > knows how > > > > > > > > > to "the system works" (timeframes, arguments, negotiations, > > delays > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > etc). In most cases, justice is not done and is not even seen > > to be > > > > > > > > > done. > > > > > > > > > > Hence, the reason many people resort to religion for justice > > i.e. in > > > > > > > > > the hope to get justice in an afterlife. > > > > > > > > > > Also, don't forget that the doctrine of Karma was created > > shortly > > > > > > > > > after the doctrine of no-personal-choice was created. The > > Kings were > > > > > > > > > worried that, if people would think that the people were > > allowed to > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > whatever they wanted, they feared that the poor would revolt > > against > > > > > > > > > them. Hence, they paid (bribed) the Brahmins who come out > > with the > > > > > > > > > idea that if the untouchables were so poor was because of > > something > > > > > > > > > they did in their previou lives (law of karma). As the masses > > trusted > > > > > > > > > and believed their Brahmins, they accepted to continue to > > live in > > > > > > > > > their low conditions and to live in poverty because the > > Brahmins said > > > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > > Love > > > > > > > > > > A > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:30 am, Anandanand <[email protected]<mailto: > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are > > concerned, > > > > > > then, I > > > > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a > > country, it > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant > > to allow > > > > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole. > > > > > > > > > > > So is Religion. The Judiciary has it's own drawback, so > > does > > > > > > religion. > > > > > > > > > > The difference being, the things are tangible, in most > > cases, in > > > > > > > > > > Judiciary, where as they are mostly intangible in the case > > of > > > > > > > > > > religion, making it in the form of beliefs. All this IMO. > > > > > > > > > > > In most places in the world, Judiciary has it's benifits. > > And > > > > > > places > > > > > > > > > > where it doesn't, are mostly in chaos. > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 12:14 pm, Mahakali <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand > > > > > > > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are > > concerned, > > > > > > then, I > > > > > > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a > > country, it > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant > > to allow > > > > > > > > > > > society to function as a whole. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not see them as "beliefs" , I see them more > > as > > > > > > > > > > > instruments as part of the machinery put in place to run > > > > > > society.And, > > > > > > > > > > > of course, there is the right and the wrong of any law or > > > > > > regulation > > > > > > > > > > > and this can be taken personally or not as a belief or a > > personal > > > > > > > > > > > stand. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 6:46 am, Anandanand <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion > > included)" > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you say the same for the trafic rules or the penal > > code ? I > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > > > not, just because that will penalise you materially. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:04 am, Mahakali <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion > > included)" as > > > > > > in every > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible thing. However,I suppose that when I say "I > > do not > > > > > > believe in > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything" I do not really mean as in "in anything" or > > > > > > "completely". I > > > > > > > > > > > > > still have my attachments but I do not have, > > anylonger, > > > > > > "strong" > > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs of any sort. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tend to question more often than I should. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You know the saying "when you see a Buddha in the > > road, kill > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > > > > (metaphorically)". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yours > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 10:56 pm, Rodger <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kali, when you say you do not believe in anything, > > are you > > > > > > meaning you > > ... > > read more »
