Do you mean to say that there is no Ramana ? On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ramana never said anything but,there is always you who are aware of > it. > Or not. > > > > > > On Aug 7, 7:37 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > I get it Mark. Thanks for reminding me. But there is a Self according to > > Ramana. Can you deny it ? I have its location in my heart. > > Can you deny it ? > > > > Nobody is really saying anything. But there is always you who are aware > of > > it. > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > > Date: Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:02 AM > > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question > > To: roomsearching <[email protected]> > > > > Oh for heaven's sake wake up to the cosmic joke RS - people are telling > you > > that you are not self realised because A PERSON cannot be self realised - > > this is a fucking advaita forum - don't you get it - sure there was an > > experience which happened here with you so what! > > > > YOU CANNOT BE SELF REALISED > > > > the process of enlightenment JUST IS > > > > THERE IS NO ROOMSEARCHING - or whatever you call yourself > > > > Nobody is really saying anything > > > > WE ARE NOT HERE!!! > > > > It's a joke - it's all empty and it doesn't mean anything that it is > empty > > and it doesn't mean anything that it is meaningless it is empty and > > meaningless and then... > > > > On 6 August 2010 16:49, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > *It was a mistake to tell the group that I am self realized because > some > > > people got jealous and jumped on me to prove that I am not. I don't > know > > > if you have the sensitivity to notice that but a couple of people like > > > Vijaya, Kuber and some Ram guy (Indian cunts as I called them) > > > started arguing with me about it. If you remember, I also got into a > fight > > > with you because you were supporting Sandeep at that time for some > **reason. > > > Probably you were just seeking attention.But I also called you several > names > > > which you might have found a bit bitter to deal with.So that whole > episode > > > was related to me making a statement that I am self-realized. > > > But there is no doubt that I am self-realized. But if I go around > telling > > > this to all the people, they will think I am a nutter. There is a > famous > > > case of David Icke who went on British television to announce that he > is the > > > son of God. People immediately started laughing at him. This is why you > > > always have to be careful about this stuff. It is a grave mistake to > tell > > > people about this stuff because people expect you to either have > miraculous > > > powers or a flamboyant personality to go with that enlightenment. I > dont > > > have both. So it is better to shut the fuck up . > > > Because enlightenment is a personal thing and needs no proof from > anyone > > > and it can also be a bit hard to prove it to others, especially those > who > > > are not enlightened because skepticism and jealousy are like stone > walls. > > > * > > > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> RS, would you mind clarifying something for me? > > >> When you say you told the group by mistake that you are self- > > >> realized,are you saying you now consider it a mistake to have told the > > >> group that,or are you saying that now you do not consider yourself as > > >> self-realized...that it was a mistake to think that you are/were? > > > > >> On Aug 6, 8:51 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Marcus <[email protected] > > > > >> wrote: > > >> > > . > > > > >> > > “narcissistic personality disorder.” > > > > >> > Vijaya Senthil Kumar tried to convince me a couple of times through > > >> > personally emailing me that I have narcissistic personality disorder > > >> when I > > >> > told the group here by mistake that I am self-realized. Before I > > >> mentioned > > >> > that, everything was fine. Nobody had a problem with me. > > > > >> > > Roomsearching is this humour ??? > > > > >> > It is not humour. > > > > >> > > Do you find this to be a laugh ??? > > > > >> > Why are you so bitter ? > > > > >> > > Does aggression please you ???? > > > > >> > Why are you so aggressive ? > > > > >> > > . > > > > >> > > On Aug 6, 12:43 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Marcus < > > >> [email protected]> > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > . > > > > >> > > > > Rodger, > > > > >> > > > > I do this because of what it says on the label. > > > > >> > > > > Advaita-Zen google discussion group. That’s what this is > > >> > > > > remember .. > > > > >> > > > What have you done in Advaita or Zen to discuss about ? > > >> > > > Can you explain some of your personal spiritual experiences ? > > > > >> > > > > This is not a forum foe insulting others. A chance for > cowards > > >> blood- > > >> > > > > let into others without face to face reality. Or for > onlookers > > >> to > > >> > > > > watch the fool and laugh. Like the court jester playing the > fool. > > >> > > > > This is only perverse ego's at work. > > > > >> > > > Sometimes I have posted very good things from Nisargadatta's or > > >> Ramana's > > >> > > > books. > > >> > > > They were not appreciated. Someone said "post your own opinions > , > > >> don't > > >> > > post > > >> > > > this old shit". > > >> > > > I have been extremely disappointed with such an attitude. Why > didn't > > >> you > > >> > > say > > >> > > > something when such things happen ? > > >> > > > You are just angry because your ego is being overshadowed by my > > >> Supreme > > >> > > > personality. > > > > >> > > > > Roomsearching needs help ……………… continuous insults is the > sign of > > >> a > > >> > > > > broken spirit. > > > > >> > > > The mind is definitely in a disturbed state after realization. > > >> > > > Manonasa implies destruction of the mind. > > >> > > > But it does not have much power because the Self is in control. > > >> > > > Someone already said that I had a narcissistic personality > disorder. > > >> > > > Someone said I have rejection issues and childhood abuse issues > and > > >> that > > >> > > I > > >> > > > am gay. > > >> > > > Now you say I have a broken spirit. > > >> > > > I would not give a shit about whatever these people said even if > > >> they > > >> > > were > > >> > > > certified psychiatrists. > > >> > > > Of course, they would demand a fee from me to give me such > > >> judgements. > > >> > > > You guys are giving it to me for free. You could not save your > lives > > >> with > > >> > > > your smattering of psychology. > > > > >> > > > > We all need help from time to time ……… it’s having the courage > to > > >> > > > > ask !!!! > > >> > > > > What help can you offer me ? I am in a state where I need no > more > > >> help > > >> > > > > from anyone. > > > > >> > > > > Rodger please don't suggest that continious insults are in any > way > > >> > > > > associated with inner peace. > > > > >> > > > Do you think slicing a cat in half is a sign of inner peace ? > Have > > >> you > > >> > > seen > > >> > > > UG's videos on youtube? Continuous idiocy requires continuous > > >> insults. > > > > >> > > > > Please ............. > > > > >> > > > You must have a very terrible sense of humour. > > > > >> > > > > . > > > > >> > > > > On Aug 6, 11:06 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > > Marcus, what do you get out of this? > > > > >> > > > > > On Aug 6, 3:22 am, "Hughes, Marcus" < > > >> [email protected]> > > >> > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > Roomsearching, what do you get out of this. They are > > >> laughing at > > >> > > you > > >> > > > > and using you as the fool. > > >> > > > > > > You present yourself as the hopeless case and they enjoy > that, > > >> it > > >> > > makes > > >> > > > > them feel clever. > > > > >> > > > > > > There is a better way ....... Please trust someone. > Please > > >> let > > >> > > someone > > >> > > > > help you. > > > > >> > > > > > > You don't have to be angry. > > > > >> > > > > > > . > > > > >> > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > > > > > From: roomsearching [mailto:[email protected]] > > >> > > > > > > Sent: 05 August 2010 17:18 > > >> > > > > > > To: Hughes, Marcus > > >> > > > > > > Cc: Advaita-Zen > > >> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question > > > > >> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Marcus < > > >> > > [email protected] > > >> > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > . > > > > >> > > > > > > Roomsearching why ??? > > > > >> > > > > > > "It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual > matters as > > >> > > well." > > > > >> > > > > > > Your words can be so elegant and inspiring. Why do you > > >> repeatedly > > >> > > > > > > destroy your magic. What forces inside you create beauty, > > >> then > > >> > > spoil > > >> > > > > > > it. > > > > >> > > > > > > The insults roomsearching, why ??? > > > > >> > > > > > > Marcus, if you notice, I have spelt ignoramus as > ignoranus. > > >> > > > > > > Don't you think that is beautiful ? > > > > >> > > > > > > . > > > > >> > > > > > > On Aug 5, 12:56 pm, roomsearching < > [email protected] > > >> <mailto: > > >> > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Might have been the way you have said. As I said > before I > > >> like > > >> > > to > > >> > > > > show > > >> > > > > > > > > off my igneranse. Did I do a Rodger ? :) > > > > >> > > > > > > > It is spelt as ignorance. I know spelling is not > important > > >> but > > >> > > don't > > >> > > > > be so > > >> > > > > > > > ignorant about English language. > > >> > > > > > > > It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual > matters > > >> as > > >> > > well. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 5:39 pm, Mahakali < > [email protected] > > >> <mailto: > > >> > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > it is the other way round. The philosophy of Advaita > > >> with its > > >> > > > > doctrine > > >> > > > > > > > > > of non-doership came before the doctrine of karma. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respectfully... > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Kali > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:19 pm, Anandanand <[email protected] > > >> <mailto: > > >> > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > We still have Kings, but they are known by > different > > >> names. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get what is the doctrine of > > >> no-personal-choice. If > > >> > > > > that is no- > > >> > > > > > > > > > > doer-nothing getting done, then as per my > knowledge > > >> this > > >> > > was to > > >> > > > > arrest > > >> > > > > > > > > > > the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I > am > > >> not an > > >> > > > > expert on > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - >
