Ramana never said anything but,there is always you who are aware of it. Or not.
On Aug 7, 7:37 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > I get it Mark. Thanks for reminding me. But there is a Self according to > Ramana. Can you deny it ? I have its location in my heart. > Can you deny it ? > > Nobody is really saying anything. But there is always you who are aware of > it. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:02 AM > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question > To: roomsearching <[email protected]> > > Oh for heaven's sake wake up to the cosmic joke RS - people are telling you > that you are not self realised because A PERSON cannot be self realised - > this is a fucking advaita forum - don't you get it - sure there was an > experience which happened here with you so what! > > YOU CANNOT BE SELF REALISED > > the process of enlightenment JUST IS > > THERE IS NO ROOMSEARCHING - or whatever you call yourself > > Nobody is really saying anything > > WE ARE NOT HERE!!! > > It's a joke - it's all empty and it doesn't mean anything that it is empty > and it doesn't mean anything that it is meaningless it is empty and > meaningless and then... > > On 6 August 2010 16:49, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > > *It was a mistake to tell the group that I am self realized because some > > people got jealous and jumped on me to prove that I am not. I don't know > > if you have the sensitivity to notice that but a couple of people like > > Vijaya, Kuber and some Ram guy (Indian cunts as I called them) > > started arguing with me about it. If you remember, I also got into a fight > > with you because you were supporting Sandeep at that time for some **reason. > > Probably you were just seeking attention.But I also called you several names > > which you might have found a bit bitter to deal with.So that whole episode > > was related to me making a statement that I am self-realized. > > But there is no doubt that I am self-realized. But if I go around telling > > this to all the people, they will think I am a nutter. There is a famous > > case of David Icke who went on British television to announce that he is the > > son of God. People immediately started laughing at him. This is why you > > always have to be careful about this stuff. It is a grave mistake to tell > > people about this stuff because people expect you to either have miraculous > > powers or a flamboyant personality to go with that enlightenment. I dont > > have both. So it is better to shut the fuck up . > > Because enlightenment is a personal thing and needs no proof from anyone > > and it can also be a bit hard to prove it to others, especially those who > > are not enlightened because skepticism and jealousy are like stone walls. > > * > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> RS, would you mind clarifying something for me? > >> When you say you told the group by mistake that you are self- > >> realized,are you saying you now consider it a mistake to have told the > >> group that,or are you saying that now you do not consider yourself as > >> self-realized...that it was a mistake to think that you are/were? > > >> On Aug 6, 8:51 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > . > > >> > > “narcissistic personality disorder.” > > >> > Vijaya Senthil Kumar tried to convince me a couple of times through > >> > personally emailing me that I have narcissistic personality disorder > >> when I > >> > told the group here by mistake that I am self-realized. Before I > >> mentioned > >> > that, everything was fine. Nobody had a problem with me. > > >> > > Roomsearching is this humour ??? > > >> > It is not humour. > > >> > > Do you find this to be a laugh ??? > > >> > Why are you so bitter ? > > >> > > Does aggression please you ???? > > >> > Why are you so aggressive ? > > >> > > . > > >> > > On Aug 6, 12:43 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Marcus < > >> [email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > . > > >> > > > > Rodger, > > >> > > > > I do this because of what it says on the label. > > >> > > > > Advaita-Zen google discussion group. That’s what this is > >> > > > > remember .. > > >> > > > What have you done in Advaita or Zen to discuss about ? > >> > > > Can you explain some of your personal spiritual experiences ? > > >> > > > > This is not a forum foe insulting others. A chance for cowards > >> blood- > >> > > > > let into others without face to face reality. Or for onlookers > >> to > >> > > > > watch the fool and laugh. Like the court jester playing the fool. > >> > > > > This is only perverse ego's at work. > > >> > > > Sometimes I have posted very good things from Nisargadatta's or > >> Ramana's > >> > > > books. > >> > > > They were not appreciated. Someone said "post your own opinions , > >> don't > >> > > post > >> > > > this old shit". > >> > > > I have been extremely disappointed with such an attitude. Why didn't > >> you > >> > > say > >> > > > something when such things happen ? > >> > > > You are just angry because your ego is being overshadowed by my > >> Supreme > >> > > > personality. > > >> > > > > Roomsearching needs help ……………… continuous insults is the sign of > >> a > >> > > > > broken spirit. > > >> > > > The mind is definitely in a disturbed state after realization. > >> > > > Manonasa implies destruction of the mind. > >> > > > But it does not have much power because the Self is in control. > >> > > > Someone already said that I had a narcissistic personality disorder. > >> > > > Someone said I have rejection issues and childhood abuse issues and > >> that > >> > > I > >> > > > am gay. > >> > > > Now you say I have a broken spirit. > >> > > > I would not give a shit about whatever these people said even if > >> they > >> > > were > >> > > > certified psychiatrists. > >> > > > Of course, they would demand a fee from me to give me such > >> judgements. > >> > > > You guys are giving it to me for free. You could not save your lives > >> with > >> > > > your smattering of psychology. > > >> > > > > We all need help from time to time ……… it’s having the courage to > >> > > > > ask !!!! > >> > > > > What help can you offer me ? I am in a state where I need no more > >> help > >> > > > > from anyone. > > >> > > > > Rodger please don't suggest that continious insults are in any way > >> > > > > associated with inner peace. > > >> > > > Do you think slicing a cat in half is a sign of inner peace ? Have > >> you > >> > > seen > >> > > > UG's videos on youtube? Continuous idiocy requires continuous > >> insults. > > >> > > > > Please ............. > > >> > > > You must have a very terrible sense of humour. > > >> > > > > . > > >> > > > > On Aug 6, 11:06 am, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > > Marcus, what do you get out of this? > > >> > > > > > On Aug 6, 3:22 am, "Hughes, Marcus" < > >> [email protected]> > >> > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > > Roomsearching, what do you get out of this. They are > >> laughing at > >> > > you > >> > > > > and using you as the fool. > >> > > > > > > You present yourself as the hopeless case and they enjoy that, > >> it > >> > > makes > >> > > > > them feel clever. > > >> > > > > > > There is a better way ....... Please trust someone. Please > >> let > >> > > someone > >> > > > > help you. > > >> > > > > > > You don't have to be angry. > > >> > > > > > > . > > >> > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > > > From: roomsearching [mailto:[email protected]] > >> > > > > > > Sent: 05 August 2010 17:18 > >> > > > > > > To: Hughes, Marcus > >> > > > > > > Cc: Advaita-Zen > >> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question > > >> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Marcus < > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > > > > > . > > >> > > > > > > Roomsearching why ??? > > >> > > > > > > "It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as > >> > > well." > > >> > > > > > > Your words can be so elegant and inspiring. Why do you > >> repeatedly > >> > > > > > > destroy your magic. What forces inside you create beauty, > >> then > >> > > spoil > >> > > > > > > it. > > >> > > > > > > The insults roomsearching, why ??? > > >> > > > > > > Marcus, if you notice, I have spelt ignoramus as ignoranus. > >> > > > > > > Don't you think that is beautiful ? > > >> > > > > > > . > > >> > > > > > > On Aug 5, 12:56 pm, roomsearching <[email protected] > >> <mailto: > >> > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > Hi Kali, > > >> > > > > > > > > Might have been the way you have said. As I said before I > >> like > >> > > to > >> > > > > show > >> > > > > > > > > off my igneranse. Did I do a Rodger ? :) > > >> > > > > > > > It is spelt as ignorance. I know spelling is not important > >> but > >> > > don't > >> > > > > be so > >> > > > > > > > ignorant about English language. > >> > > > > > > > It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters > >> as > >> > > well. > > >> > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 5:39 pm, Mahakali <[email protected] > >> <mailto: > >> > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi Anandanand > > >> > > > > > > > > > it is the other way round. The philosophy of Advaita > >> with its > >> > > > > doctrine > >> > > > > > > > > > of non-doership came before the doctrine of karma. > > >> > > > > > > > > > Respectfully... > > >> > > > > > > > > > Kali > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:19 pm, Anandanand <[email protected] > >> <mailto: > >> > > > > [email protected]>> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > > > > We still have Kings, but they are known by different > >> names. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get what is the doctrine of > >> no-personal-choice. If > >> > > > > that is no- > >> > > > > > > > > > > doer-nothing getting done, then as per my knowledge > >> this > >> > > was to > >> > > > > arrest > >> > > > > > > > > > > the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I am > >> not an > >> > > > > expert on > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
