This is a very complicated post to respond to.

Life is inherently meaningless and you have just done a really great job of
being human.

Only humans conceptualise and I am not saying it is wrong, I am doing it
now.

What I am saying is that in conceptualising life, we create the meaning.

There is no "meaning of life" more "meanings of life" and for each and every
human on this planet a separate meaning, perhaps even a parallel Universe.

Your comments about living in a Universally intelligent life force is
interesting, but I am not sure that we know it has intentions - this would
involve IT taking a position on things at which point it would cease to be
whole?

And can you prove that 2+2=4?

I know I can't.

I know I can prove it doesn't...

Two cars plus two cats?

There were four of them I tell you.

Which kind of negates the argument of this group that there was only ever
one all along :)

To recap

Life is inherently meaningless, you cannot pluck the meaning from life and
examine it

Your life is meaningful (for you) because you create a meaning

The meaning you create is a concept about your life based on the content and
context of the way you perceive it

It only really means anything to you

It's a kinda weird one to get your head around, especially from an
ego/individual perspective

The purpose of life is kipper?

LOL

Cheers

Mark

On 7 March 2011 11:13, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:

> .
>
> Thanks Youwho, and to All this discussion group.
>
> It is so good to read your words and to see how close our
> understandings can become.  This topic of non-duality is not for the
> faint hearted.  Clearly you like many more have looked deep inside
> yourself, where only truth can be found.   Thanks for sharing, it’s a
> rear gift to be able to exchange ideas on this subject and always a
> relief to know that others see the same inner truth as ones self.
>
> Whist I agree totally with the general direction I have one slight
> omission.
>
> The statement    “What is the meaning of life? It has none.”
>
> In my little bubble I call reality, this question of life’s meaning
> and purpose is critical.  Given that each one of us sentient beings is
> the ultimate creator of their unique experience of conscious
> awareness.  Then the charge of purpose and meaning becomes the sole
> responsibility of the self creator.   Hampered by logic and reason my
> mind looks across the universe.
>
> How do we define purpose and meaning?  Quote : “Purpose means the
> reason for which something is done.”
>
> We know how this lonely rock we call planet-earth was for most of it’s
> existence, a barren wilderness of lifeless dust.     Was that empty
> barren rock meaningless?   Or was it a meaningful and necessary stage
> in a programme of the intelligent forces.  Which ensure the whole
> universe (Advaita) is moving toward it’s universal ambition of
> creating this here-now.   Which hence ensures that this conversation
> does take place.  As it clearly is.
>
> In the time honoured tradition of non-duality  we abandon conceptual
> use of past and future.   We see here-now as truth.  Yet our knowledge
> of the past determines change.   I see non-understandable purpose in
> all.   We live in a universally intelligent force which governs and
> coheres all energies to make manifest it’s intent in the now.    Our
> thoughts, our conscious awareness, the moon and the stars are all the
> actuality of the intentions the universally intelligent force.
>
> That force which ensures water is wet and E=MC2.
>
> Thee invisible force which ensures that 2+2=4 on the surface of all
> our reality bubbles.   My reasoning is only that if one thing in the
> universe has purpose then all other things exist to support that one
> purpose.
>
> If my efforts today are to be happiness and spread happiness, then is
> that not enough purpose for the entire universe?
>
> Is this not the condition of a single universal motion of energy, a
> whole and complete Advaita?
>
> The purpose is now ..........
>
>
>
> .
>
> On Mar 3, 11:46 pm, "YouWho?" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Nirupana - 92
> >
> > You are prior to thoughts. How can thoughts arise if you are not there
> > prior to them? The wakefulness that comes in the morning stays there
> > until one goes to sleep again. You are prior to the wakefulness. One
> > day it will sleep permanently. What you are listenting to is the
> > highest type of meditation.
> >
> > Our teaching is unique, quite different from others in the world. It
> > is of no use to the one who considers his body as his own Self.
> >
> > What is the meaning of life? It has none. It is there without any
> > reason. Just see, witness. It is like urinating. Even if life is
> > understood as the knowledge of the Self, that earned knowledge is also
> > untrue. There will not be a vestige of it left. As soon as prana
> > leaves the body, there will not be any difference whether one lived or
> > not.
> >
> > Brahman is forever. The knowledge "I Am" comes to Brahman only. The
> > individual has no knowledge. It is the source of misery. This "I Am"
> > itself is the knowledge. Proper cognizance of this is the essence of
> > spiritual truth. No one thinks about himself. He is searching for God
> > who is One without a second and is limitless. However, the seed of the
> > universe is contained in a microscopic seed of the knowingness of
> > Beingness. No one thinks of that. Is it any different from God?
> >
> > The name "Chidakash" - the limitless space of Consciousnes, belongs to
> > the living active "Knowingness." The knowledge of the world is not
> > outside of this Consciousness.
> >
> > - Nisaragadatta Maharaj
> > Sunday 2/11/1979
>

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