>
> “can it be denied that this waking dream is any
> different in substance or transience than any sleeping dream?
>

Well obviously it can. That is why human beings created the distinctions
awake and asleep.


> In opinion.  Yes, there is a difference.  In this waking dream I can
> Google.
>

Hey I can do it in my sleep (sic) LOL


> Or put another way, my human logic and reason dominates the whispering
> voice of my inner self, immortal soul.   In my deam dreams I can fly,
> move objects with my mind.  In my dream dreams I know I can wake up.

Some times I have been caught in the transition and although I can see
> my bedroom and have conscious awareness of my bedroom I can-not move
> my body from it’s sleep state.   Very strange and yet for me, this
> proves  “I am” is the witness of self.


Does it?

As the self flows through
> conscious awareness it encounters change.  It encounters thought,
> memory, faith, hope, love and fear.


I think you will find as the self flows through blah blah blah it INVENTS
thoughts, memories, faith, hope love and fear. It encounters all that is and
CREATES a story about what it MEANS about SELF.


> This  “I am”  witness observes
> these conditions, it then decides to react or ignore.


NO - first "I am" is CREATED as a POV then the conditions? are created in
relationship to this illusory sense of SELF.


The witness “I
> am”  uses conscious awareness like a vessel.   I am not my legs or
> arms, I am not my mind or my emotions.   I am not my dreams or the
> circumstance of my surroundings.   And yet they are all the only way
> “I am”  can associate and struggle with self happiness.
>

Again NO - there is no you and "I am" is an illusion that can be created to
make sense of what is happening. You are not really "I am" this is the tool
you have to play the game, life, the invitation to act as a human being with
an agenda (including advaita and enlightenment).


“but it is still only dream experience nonetheless.”
>

Yes, of course. Prior to the dream what is there?
Prior to the sense of "I am" what creates the distinction?
What creates this witness?

Everything in life from birth is like a pinball game, action, reaction,
counteraction.
All that happens creates all that is to come.

Prior to this, who released the ball.

Before you became a cause and effect mechanism, explain the energy of the
driver of the ball.

Is a dream something?    Is an experience something?
>

Yes, if it is distinct from a not dream or another experience it is a
distinction.


> We have been trained from very early age to think and behave as
> consumers.
> This subliminal indoctrination has even penetrated our approach to
> understanding the profound inner self.    We approach spiritually,
> Advaita,  Self and Purpose from a consumer’s view.    Maybe the
> overall purpose is not a benefit or profit.    Maybe this  whole
> universe was created with all it’s fundamental laws and introspective
> reflections of infinity, simply to grow and die for no overall
> difference to the original emptiness without form. To journey.  We can-
> not know and should not demand to know.


Earth is like a tic on the back of an elephant...

Yet each molecule contains an instruction as to its purpose

So why don't you know?


> All we have to work with is
> now.    Right now I am the witness of Marcus and it’s a beautiful
> day.   Tonight we will make pancakes for Shrove Tuesday and watch the
> news on television, that's my real dream now.
>

Cool, me too, very excited about flour eggs and lemons!


> Knowing thy self.    Is to see the futility in trying to know anything
> more than the self.
>  “The kingdom of God is within you”   this is the realisation that now
> is the only place where all your hopes and dreams can happen.   When
> the inner self is allowed to surface in the now then the universe,
> your co-created universe is everything you ever wanted it to be.
> Purpose or no purpose, duality or non-duality it’ up to you.
>

This is all meaning you add to being, you know that don't you :) and quite
beautiful it is too. Nice values that are meaningless seem so much more
valuable than the shitty ones LOL

With such a choice, lets choose the promotion of sunshine and rainbows
> happiness as this days purpose.
>
> Why not, when the difference is you ………………..
>

It's a possibility

Cheers

Mark

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