. Yep, most defiantly agree.
This is the tradition of non-duality. The apparent separation that there is no absolute purpose to human life and yet each manifestation of human life creates it’s own purpose. One then sees, when the universe manifest life, life then manifest purpose. A non-dual relationship where the universe begat life and life begat purpose. Is it not proper to accept that in a universe that is whole. Which then gave each one of us (illusionary sentient being) the ability to create their own purpose. With a preference towards sustainable concept solutions like purpose, Love and freedom. 2+2=4 is the worlds greatest religion. Human logic and reason need to hang onto something. In the absence of experiencing the inner self the mind creates balance, fixed points of reference. One of these is the debate of reality verses illusion. Fixed points of reference such as, yesterday and tomorrow. Right and wrong, light and dark. We accept them in the terms of the necessary illusions for the balance of human intellectual madness. Business, politics and religion are all illusions for the balance of human intellectual madness. We must creat our own ............ . On Mar 7, 11:33 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a very complicated post to respond to. > > Life is inherently meaningless and you have just done a really great job of > being human. > > Only humans conceptualise and I am not saying it is wrong, I am doing it > now. > > What I am saying is that in conceptualising life, we create the meaning. > > There is no "meaning of life" more "meanings of life" and for each and every > human on this planet a separate meaning, perhaps even a parallel Universe. > > Your comments about living in a Universally intelligent life force is > interesting, but I am not sure that we know it has intentions - this would > involve IT taking a position on things at which point it would cease to be > whole? > > And can you prove that 2+2=4? > > I know I can't. > > I know I can prove it doesn't... > > Two cars plus two cats? > > There were four of them I tell you. > > Which kind of negates the argument of this group that there was only ever > one all along :) > > To recap > > Life is inherently meaningless, you cannot pluck the meaning from life and > examine it > > Your life is meaningful (for you) because you create a meaning > > The meaning you create is a concept about your life based on the content and > context of the way you perceive it > > It only really means anything to you > > It's a kinda weird one to get your head around, especially from an > ego/individual perspective > > The purpose of life is kipper? > > LOL > > Cheers > > Mark > > On 7 March 2011 11:13, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > . > > > Thanks Youwho, and to All this discussion group. > > > It is so good to read your words and to see how close our > > understandings can become. This topic of non-duality is not for the > > faint hearted. Clearly you like many more have looked deep inside > > yourself, where only truth can be found. Thanks for sharing, it’s a > > rear gift to be able to exchange ideas on this subject and always a > > relief to know that others see the same inner truth as ones self. > > > Whist I agree totally with the general direction I have one slight > > omission. > > > The statement “What is the meaning of life? It has none.” > > > In my little bubble I call reality, this question of life’s meaning > > and purpose is critical. Given that each one of us sentient beings is > > the ultimate creator of their unique experience of conscious > > awareness. Then the charge of purpose and meaning becomes the sole > > responsibility of the self creator. Hampered by logic and reason my > > mind looks across the universe. > > > How do we define purpose and meaning? Quote : “Purpose means the > > reason for which something is done.” > > > We know how this lonely rock we call planet-earth was for most of it’s > > existence, a barren wilderness of lifeless dust. Was that empty > > barren rock meaningless? Or was it a meaningful and necessary stage > > in a programme of the intelligent forces. Which ensure the whole > > universe (Advaita) is moving toward it’s universal ambition of > > creating this here-now. Which hence ensures that this conversation > > does take place. As it clearly is. > > > In the time honoured tradition of non-duality we abandon conceptual > > use of past and future. We see here-now as truth. Yet our knowledge > > of the past determines change. I see non-understandable purpose in > > all. We live in a universally intelligent force which governs and > > coheres all energies to make manifest it’s intent in the now. Our > > thoughts, our conscious awareness, the moon and the stars are all the > > actuality of the intentions the universally intelligent force. > > > That force which ensures water is wet and E=MC2. > > > Thee invisible force which ensures that 2+2=4 on the surface of all > > our reality bubbles. My reasoning is only that if one thing in the > > universe has purpose then all other things exist to support that one > > purpose. > > > If my efforts today are to be happiness and spread happiness, then is > > that not enough purpose for the entire universe? > > > Is this not the condition of a single universal motion of energy, a > > whole and complete Advaita? > > > The purpose is now .......... > > > . > > > On Mar 3, 11:46 pm, "YouWho?" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Nirupana - 92 > > > > You are prior to thoughts. How can thoughts arise if you are not there > > > prior to them? The wakefulness that comes in the morning stays there > > > until one goes to sleep again. You are prior to the wakefulness. One > > > day it will sleep permanently. What you are listenting to is the > > > highest type of meditation. > > > > Our teaching is unique, quite different from others in the world. It > > > is of no use to the one who considers his body as his own Self. > > > > What is the meaning of life? It has none. It is there without any > > > reason. Just see, witness. It is like urinating. Even if life is > > > understood as the knowledge of the Self, that earned knowledge is also > > > untrue. There will not be a vestige of it left. As soon as prana > > > leaves the body, there will not be any difference whether one lived or > > > not. > > > > Brahman is forever. The knowledge "I Am" comes to Brahman only. The > > > individual has no knowledge. It is the source of misery. This "I Am" > > > itself is the knowledge. Proper cognizance of this is the essence of > > > spiritual truth. No one thinks about himself. He is searching for God > > > who is One without a second and is limitless. However, the seed of the > > > universe is contained in a microscopic seed of the knowingness of > > > Beingness. No one thinks of that. Is it any different from God? > > > > The name "Chidakash" - the limitless space of Consciousnes, belongs to > > > the living active "Knowingness." The knowledge of the world is not > > > outside of this Consciousness. > > > > - Nisaragadatta Maharaj > > > Sunday 2/11/1979- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
