On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:04 PM, [email protected] wrote:

In sum, for me to think I proved "good art" "exists" by asserting, "HAMLET is good art!" -- would by fatuous. I enjoy HAMLET; Tolstoi did not. In the end
my entire argument for calling it in some absolute way "good" would be
reduced to my pointing at elements that gave me enjoyment (I won't say "aesthetic enjoyment" because in this particular context that too would probably be
rejected as amounting to begging the question.) ...

How do you get yourself out of the Blind Alley of Solipsism, when it's marked as a one-way street? How can you discuss something ostensibly objectively present, such as qualities that can be evaluated as "good" in a work, when you cannot get around the fact that the stone you stub your toe on is only known to you as a sensory notion? Don't you have to set up a few ground rules, such as "All statements about external 'objects' tacitly include the caveat, 'As constructed internally by perceptions, interpretations of those perceptions, and conclusions based on them'"?

I have previously asserted that things "out there" contain, i.e., convey, meaning by virtue of some structural properties they have. And the meanings inhere even when no one is present (the sound of Berkeley's tree falling in the woods). Indeed, when someone speaks Chinese in front of me, I do not receive the meaning of their words, but the Chinese speaker next to me does. I believe it is possible to speak of good and bad qualities in things, and these qualities are independent of the perceiver's/interpreter's set of standards for such things. They raw material that leads to "good" and "bad" predicates reside in the objects, not exclusively in our heads.

I should say these are not mere devil's advocate arguments. I sincerely believe these things. The very things in Johnson or Shakespeare that give me pleasure might bore or disgust the next person. "Well, you shouldn't be bored! You should be transported like me! And if I am transported, it can only be because there is good art there. Thus do I prove good art exists!" I can imagine a
devotee of Beckett saying that to me about WAITING FOR GODOT.

You don't really get transported somewhere, do you? Not, like, really? You're just using one of those metaphor things, aren't you?

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Michael Brady
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