It's a great look into their sense of ethics...
On 9/1/18 9:42 AM, Sean Heskett wrote:
I’m not sure what Tim is referring to but ubiquiti is for sure going
after as much money as possible because they filed the suit under RICO
law which is a civil law used against the mofia. They are seeking
treble (3x) damages which is what RICO allows. I think it adds up to
around $300million or more.
It’s a ridiculous assault on our community.
-Sean
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 5:05 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
Ok, that's interesting and I certainly didn't see that in my
super-duper
quick scan.. UBNT has a contract with cambium?
On 08/31/2018 01:26 PM, Timothy Steele wrote:
> I read through that case there sueing more to get out of there
contract
> with cambium then money and the end user is suspected of making
profit
> and helping cambium
>
> I'm NOT saying UBNT is right or wrong
>
> There is just not enough information out yet to get super angry yet
>
> Very interested to see how this case unfolds though
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 4:17 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
> <mailto:af...@zirkel.us <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>>> wrote:
>
> don't forget that they then sue users, distributors and
competitors
> for conspiracy to hack when you load another OS/UI on their
> commodity hardware that you own outright.
>
> Just sayin'
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:05 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
> <j...@brazoswifi.com <mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>
<mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com <mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>>> wrote:
>
> UBNT is doing what UBNT does. They take commodity
hardware and
> wrap it in a shiny box with a slick UI. ____
>
> The commodity hardware is cheap and works reliably
well. Don’t
> hate on something that sells well because it is easy to
use.____
>
> __ __
>
> No, they aren’t selling glass. They expect you to do
that part
> on your own.____
>
> __ __
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com____
>
> __ __
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 8:44 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
>
> __ __
>
> I don't trust ubnt in any space. That's why their fiber
stuffs
> aren't even on our radar. They're just doing the electronics
> right? Tell me they're not in the glass game itself.
Tell me God
> they're not selling tough fiber or anything like that to
rot in
> the ground____
>
> __ __
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 2:25 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>>
wrote:____
>
> I can generally get a building permit to use a public
> utility ROW or the side of a street for almost free.
____
>
> Perhaps use a customers home for everything in
exchange for
> service etc. ____
>
> ____
>
> I agree, for 30 PON is a good way to go. But I like the
> simplicity of AE, the fact that I can cast shade on PON
> based competitors and not having to deal with
splitters. ____
>
> ____
>
> And I do PON all day long with Calix. But for a non
> regulated for profit startup, Calix is not the way
to go.____
>
> However I do not trust UBNT in this space... yet...____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> *From:*Colin Stanners ____
>
> *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:18 PM____
>
> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
>
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
>
> ____
>
> ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal
> fees, concrete pad, electrical install, cabinet, UPS,
> heating/cooling, fiber switch is probably $10,000 -
15,000
> including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not sure
that it
> would be worth doing for only 30 homes.____
>
> ____
>
> PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing
splice
> cases and require none of that support cost $60
each.____
>
> ____
>
> Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit
fiber looks
> pretty good when we still have tower sites with 16
customers
> on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP. And 10Gbit GPON seems to be
> coming soon... ____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>>
wrote:____
>
> If you have one strand going out there, you hang a
> switch and give all 30 homes active E. ____
>
> ____
>
> Each home needs a drop. ____
>
> So you have to connect the drop to either a
splitter or
> an SFP. ____
>
> ____
>
> With AE you will have to power the switch but
then you
> have no shared bandwidth, it has market cache vs
shared
> bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> ____
>
> *From:*Colin Stanners ____
>
> *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM____
>
> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
>
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
>
> ____
>
> That's the main reason, and it branches into
> upgradeability. If a new 30-house subdivision
appears in
> a field a few miles from your headend, and you
have a
> spare 10 strands going out there, you only need
to use
> 2-3 strands instead of running new 48-strand
cable the
> whole way.____
>
> ____
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>> wrote:____
>
> So, other than the obvious strand count
advantages,
> why would you use this vs active ethernet?____
>
> ____
>
> *From:*Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] ____
>
> *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM____
>
> *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____
>
> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
>
> ____
>
> It works fine. We have it in 2 subdivisions.
> It is brain dead simple to configure.____
>
> Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to
> configure. The ONU (cpe) can run in bridge or
> router mode. I’m not sure what the routing/NAT
> speeds are capable of but it will do 1G in
bridge
> mode without breaking a sweat.____
>
> ____
>
> Jim Bouse
> Owner - Brazos WiFi
> 979-985-5912
> http://www.brazoswifi.com____
>
> ____
>
> *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>>> *On Behalf Of
> *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> <Af@af.afmug.com <mailto:Af@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:Af@af.afmug.com <mailto:Af@af.afmug.com>>>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____
>
> ____
>
> Does anyone actually have this equipment in a
> production environment? I have a test
setup, just
> haven't heard much discussion about it so I
thought
> I'd check with the group.____
>
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