It's Broadcom under the hood.

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
wrote:

> You get burned with something?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I don't trust ubnt in any space. That's why their fiber stuffs aren't even
> on our radar. They're just doing the electronics right? Tell me they're not
> in the glass game itself. Tell me God they're not selling tough fiber or
> anything like that to rot in the ground
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 2:25 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I can generally get a building permit to use a public utility ROW or the
>> side of a street for almost free.
>> Perhaps use a customers home for everything in exchange for service etc.
>>
>> I agree, for 30 PON is a good way to go.  But I like the simplicity of
>> AE, the fact that I can cast shade on PON based competitors and not having
>> to deal with splitters.
>>
>> And I do PON all day long with Calix.  But for a non regulated for profit
>> startup, Calix is not the way to go.
>> However I do not trust UBNT in this space... yet...
>>
>>
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:18 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>
>> ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal fees, concrete
>> pad, electrical install, cabinet, UPS, heating/cooling, fiber switch is
>> probably $10,000 - 15,000 including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not
>> sure that it would be worth doing for only 30 homes.
>>
>> PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice cases and
>> require none of that support cost $60 each.
>>
>> Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks pretty good
>> when we still have tower sites with 16 customers on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP.
>> And 10Gbit GPON seems to be coming soon...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all
>>> 30 homes active E.
>>>
>>> Each home needs a drop.
>>> So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or an SFP.
>>>
>>> With AE you will have to power the switch but then  you have no shared
>>> bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>>
>>> That's the main reason, and it branches into upgradeability. If a new
>>> 30-house subdivision appears in a field a few miles from your headend, and
>>> you have a spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use 2-3
>>> strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the whole way.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use
>>>> this vs active ethernet?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It works fine.  We have it in 2 subdivisions.
>>>> It is brain dead simple to configure.
>>>>
>>>> Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.  The ONU (cpe)
>>>> can run in bridge or router mode.  I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds
>>>> are capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim Bouse
>>>> Owner - Brazos WiFi
>>>> 979-985-5912
>>>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <Af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment?
>>>> I have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I
>>>> thought I'd check with the group.
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