Acctuly there is tough fiber unless they stopped making it..
The new tough cable is good If you got burned by the old tough cable that had dry rot I can understand the anger On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 10:22 AM Chuck Hogg <ch...@allpointsbroadband.com> wrote: > It's Broadcom under the hood. > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote: > >> You get burned with something? >> >> Jon Langeler >> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >> >> >> On Aug 31, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I don't trust ubnt in any space. That's why their fiber stuffs aren't >> even on our radar. They're just doing the electronics right? Tell me >> they're not in the glass game itself. Tell me God they're not selling tough >> fiber or anything like that to rot in the ground >> >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 2:25 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> I can generally get a building permit to use a public utility ROW or the >>> side of a street for almost free. >>> Perhaps use a customers home for everything in exchange for service >>> etc. >>> >>> I agree, for 30 PON is a good way to go. But I like the simplicity of >>> AE, the fact that I can cast shade on PON based competitors and not having >>> to deal with splitters. >>> >>> And I do PON all day long with Calix. But for a non regulated for >>> profit startup, Calix is not the way to go. >>> However I do not trust UBNT in this space... yet... >>> >>> >>> *From:* Colin Stanners >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:18 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber >>> >>> ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal fees, concrete >>> pad, electrical install, cabinet, UPS, heating/cooling, fiber switch is >>> probably $10,000 - 15,000 including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not >>> sure that it would be worth doing for only 30 homes. >>> >>> PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice cases and >>> require none of that support cost $60 each. >>> >>> Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks pretty good >>> when we still have tower sites with 16 customers on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP. >>> And 10Gbit GPON seems to be coming soon... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all >>>> 30 homes active E. >>>> >>>> Each home needs a drop. >>>> So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or an SFP. >>>> >>>> With AE you will have to power the switch but then you have no shared >>>> bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared bandwidth old fashioned GPON >>>> etc... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Colin Stanners >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber >>>> >>>> That's the main reason, and it branches into upgradeability. If a new >>>> 30-house subdivision appears in a field a few miles from your headend, and >>>> you have a spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use 2-3 >>>> strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the whole way. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use >>>>> this vs active ethernet? >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It works fine. We have it in 2 subdivisions. >>>>> It is brain dead simple to configure. >>>>> >>>>> Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure. The ONU (cpe) >>>>> can run in bridge or router mode. I’m not sure what the routing/NAT >>>>> speeds >>>>> are capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jim Bouse >>>>> Owner - Brazos WiFi >>>>> 979-985-5912 >>>>> http://www.brazoswifi.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <Af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment? >>>>> I have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I >>>>> thought I'd check with the group. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > Chuck > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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