No On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 7:05 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
> Ok, that's interesting and I certainly didn't see that in my super-duper > quick scan.. UBNT has a contract with cambium? > > On 08/31/2018 01:26 PM, Timothy Steele wrote: > > I read through that case there sueing more to get out of there contract > > with cambium then money and the end user is suspected of making profit > > and helping cambium > > > > I'm NOT saying UBNT is right or wrong > > > > There is just not enough information out yet to get super angry yet > > > > Very interested to see how this case unfolds though > > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 4:17 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us > > <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote: > > > > don't forget that they then sue users, distributors and competitors > > for conspiracy to hack when you load another OS/UI on their > > commodity hardware that you own outright. > > > > Just sayin' > > > > -Sean > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 8:05 AM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] > > <j...@brazoswifi.com <mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com>> wrote: > > > > UBNT is doing what UBNT does. They take commodity hardware and > > wrap it in a shiny box with a slick UI. ____ > > > > The commodity hardware is cheap and works reliably well. Don’t > > hate on something that sells well because it is easy to use.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > No, they aren’t selling glass. They expect you to do that part > > on your own.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Jim Bouse > > Owner - Brazos WiFi > > 979-985-5912 > > http://www.brazoswifi.com____ > > > > __ __ > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones > > *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 8:44 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ > > > > __ __ > > > > I don't trust ubnt in any space. That's why their fiber stuffs > > aren't even on our radar. They're just doing the electronics > > right? Tell me they're not in the glass game itself. Tell me God > > they're not selling tough fiber or anything like that to rot in > > the ground____ > > > > __ __ > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 2:25 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com > > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:____ > > > > I can generally get a building permit to use a public > > utility ROW or the side of a street for almost free. ____ > > > > Perhaps use a customers home for everything in exchange for > > service etc. ____ > > > > ____ > > > > I agree, for 30 PON is a good way to go. But I like the > > simplicity of AE, the fact that I can cast shade on PON > > based competitors and not having to deal with splitters. ____ > > > > ____ > > > > And I do PON all day long with Calix. But for a non > > regulated for profit startup, Calix is not the way to go.____ > > > > However I do not trust UBNT in this space... yet...____ > > > > ____ > > > > ____ > > > > *From:*Colin Stanners ____ > > > > *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:18 PM____ > > > > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____ > > > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ > > > > ____ > > > > ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal > > fees, concrete pad, electrical install, cabinet, UPS, > > heating/cooling, fiber switch is probably $10,000 - 15,000 > > including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not sure that it > > would be worth doing for only 30 homes.____ > > > > ____ > > > > PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice > > cases and require none of that support cost $60 each.____ > > > > ____ > > > > Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks > > pretty good when we still have tower sites with 16 customers > > on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP. And 10Gbit GPON seems to be > > coming soon... ____ > > > > ____ > > > > ____ > > > > ____ > > > > ____ > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com > > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:____ > > > > If you have one strand going out there, you hang a > > switch and give all 30 homes active E. ____ > > > > ____ > > > > Each home needs a drop. ____ > > > > So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or > > an SFP. ____ > > > > ____ > > > > With AE you will have to power the switch but then you > > have no shared bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared > > bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...____ > > > > ____ > > > > ____ > > > > ____ > > > > *From:*Colin Stanners ____ > > > > *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM____ > > > > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____ > > > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ > > > > ____ > > > > That's the main reason, and it branches into > > upgradeability. If a new 30-house subdivision appears in > > a field a few miles from your headend, and you have a > > spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use > > 2-3 strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the > > whole way.____ > > > > ____ > > > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com > > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:____ > > > > So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, > > why would you use this vs active ethernet?____ > > > > ____ > > > > *From:*Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] ____ > > > > *Sent:*Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM____ > > > > *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ____ > > > > *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ > > > > ____ > > > > It works fine. We have it in 2 subdivisions. > > It is brain dead simple to configure.____ > > > > Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to > > configure. The ONU (cpe) can run in bridge or > > router mode. I’m not sure what the routing/NAT > > speeds are capable of but it will do 1G in bridge > > mode without breaking a sweat.____ > > > > ____ > > > > Jim Bouse > > Owner - Brazos WiFi > > 979-985-5912 > > http://www.brazoswifi.com____ > > > > ____ > > > > *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of > > *Jason McKemie > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > <Af@af.afmug.com <mailto:Af@af.afmug.com>> > > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber____ > > > > ____ > > > > Does anyone actually have this equipment in a > > production environment? 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