I have not lost link with the HD.  Maybe it's the port, maybe it's the rock
solid zip ties + tape.  Maybe it's Maybelline...


Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I know its still loose i have 4 in the air. I really don't care if its
> loose as long as it doesn't disconnect. Have you had any production
> failures on the new XHD were a link actually disconnected though?
>
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:22 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> You know the other thing that really just pisses me off is Ubnt employees
>> would just say the old ports were fine and just suggest zip ties and
>> dielectric grease.  Now all of a sudden with the HD available they say it
>> was a minor issue with some units?  That's just complete fucking garbage.
>>
>> The current af5x still has the issue, the new af5xHD has the issue.  The
>> RJ45 is loose as hell and because of this we always zip tie the cat5 solid
>> as hell at the base of the radio so it can't move even a millimeter.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
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>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, didn't see that.  "Unrelated" to my issue with the rj45 sitting
>>> in the ethernet jack.  You can buy an HD today or come down to my office
>>> and I'll show you brand new ones where the rj45 is as loose as a....well
>>> you know.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
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>>> Suite 1337
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Josh, did you see my previous post? I answered your question.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 9:22 AM Craig Schmaderer <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: Image]
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Luthman <
>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2018 8:15 AM
>>>>> *To:* AFMUG
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTMP Airfiber or LTU
>>>>>
>>>>>  Companies spoke highly of the beam steering products, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0ASuite+1337+%0D%0ATroy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 9:04 AM Craig Schmaderer <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As much as Chris Johnson brags about his alpha LTU deployment, you
>>>>>> would think it would be in production already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:48 PM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PTMP Airfiber or LTU
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *forums and * fail for the previous post
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 9:46 PM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UBNT is saying in the forms that the problem with ethernet jacks has
>>>>>>> been taken care of. https://community.ubnt.
>>>>>>> com/t5/airFiber-LTU/AF5XHD-ethernet-port-vs-AF5X-
>>>>>>> ethernet-port/td-p/2562992
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know its still loose on the HD but have you had any links fair in
>>>>>>> production on the HD because of those problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 4:47 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, I can't see any difference in the ethernet ports, so I
>>>>>>>> assumed they'll still have the same problems. I haven't actually seen 
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> problems with the ethernet on an AF5XHD yet... but it doesn't always 
>>>>>>>> happen
>>>>>>>> on the old radios either, so that doesn't prove much. They also have 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> advantage that of a usable second ethernet port, so you can hook up 
>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>> and hope at least one keeps working.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:50 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't have any problem installing the boots or plugging or
>>>>>>>>> unplugging a cable with the boot installed.
>>>>>>>>> The AF5XHD is good for the money.  I can't complain.  The only
>>>>>>>>> thing I'd be ware of is you really want a super hot CINR to hit the 
>>>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>>>> data rates that they advertise.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We just used an AF5XHD with 34dbi dishes to replace an ePMP with
>>>>>>>>> their 25dbi dishes.  On the exact same channel the ePMP was on, the 
>>>>>>>>> AF5XHD
>>>>>>>>> didn't actually give us better throughput.  We did end up getting 
>>>>>>>>> more than
>>>>>>>>> double the speed after shuffling channels around to reduce 
>>>>>>>>> interference.
>>>>>>>>> It's unfortunately still only getting 64QAM (4x) in one direction due 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> interference, but it's 1024QAM (10x) in the other direction.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 3:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who said that?  It's the exact same problem, it's so damn loose.
>>>>>>>>> Yes, you still have to force that cable up there for it to work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They did include a rubber IP67 boot.  If you put this inside and
>>>>>>>>> try to put a cat5/rj45 in there you'll destroy the female jack of the
>>>>>>>>> radio.  I would guess if you slid the rubber thing over the cat5, 
>>>>>>>>> plugged
>>>>>>>>> it in, and kept that boot in there it would help it from coming down 
>>>>>>>>> at all
>>>>>>>>> but the trade there is a new tech will destroy the radio more often 
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> what the boot would help...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0ASuite+1337+%0D%0ATroy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought they fixed the Ethernet jack on the AF5XHD? That is
>>>>>>>>>> what UBNT is telling me they said they found a problem vendor. Are 
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> still having issues where you have to push the RJ45 up into the AF 
>>>>>>>>>> to get
>>>>>>>>>> the ethernet link to come back?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 2:15 PM Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AF5Xhd is pretty sweet.  I'm happier radio wise than the AF5X.
>>>>>>>>>>> It's still a shit ethernet jack.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As to ptmp, the snmp seems to be built with that in mind.  As to
>>>>>>>>>>> when it'll come, all I can say is I've heard questions with no 
>>>>>>>>>>> answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Joe Novak <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have been using the AF5XHD as well. I'm happy with it as a
>>>>>>>>>>>> PTP platform, but in a lot of our areas we are running 2 foot 
>>>>>>>>>>>> dishes for
>>>>>>>>>>>> even the shorter hops to achieve the SNR for 1024QAM. It's kicking 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ass
>>>>>>>>>>>> though, and these links probably should have been bigger dishes to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> begin
>>>>>>>>>>>> with so it is what it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Highlights are mostly that now 256Q(8x) has a effective output
>>>>>>>>>>>> power of 21db-22db, compared to the 18db on a good day of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> original 5X.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think 1024Q (10x) is now more like 18db-19db now which is a huge
>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement compared to the original 5X. It has helped quite a few 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> links we have replaced.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 12:19 PM Timothy Steele <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AirFiberxHD (PTP LTU) has been working awesome at least 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> times the throughput and uses a lot less power then AirfiberX
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> grate for solar sites
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 12:42 PM Sean Heskett <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who cares, Ubiquiti likes to sue their customers so why would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone wanna buy their crap?!?!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:31 AM Paul McCall <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone heard any update on when the PTMP Airfiber or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other UBNT LTU gear is coming?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems like the fodder / vaporware cycle on this has been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running long then normal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
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