Well, is it? Did AT&T beat Google to many of the homes?
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*From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent: *Saturday, February 9, 2019 5:02:02 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville
This an exception to that rule.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:46 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
so is it safe to now assume "the first one with fiber" does
not necessarily still win?
obviously ATT got there first so i guess they won....
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*From:* Colin Stanners <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:28 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on
Louisville
Microfiber works for cheaper/faster/temporary runs or as
you said on private, controlled property.
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 12:24 PM Bill Prince
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
I think microfiber can work it is for the end-user
hookup, and (probably) entirely on their property.
However, for a main line, or even a trunk, it sounds
like it's maybe just a bit too cheap.
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bp
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On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:15 AM Matt Hoppes
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I thought the whole issue of 2” deep was brought
up when it started and was determined and said
to be a non issue.
Either because no one would bother it or they
would just rerun.
On Feb 9, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Chuck Hogg
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So here's why Google Fiber failed.
1. Microtrenches were done as little as 2"
in some areas. When roads got resurfaced,
they ate up Google Fiber. Additionally, you
could go down a road and see foam coming up
in some areas. Google Fiber contractors
were not what I'd call first rate. They
were being pressured by the local project
manager to get things completed fast. Anyone
in construction knows that means quality can
go to shit.
2. Anytime a permit was pulled for Google
Fiber microtrenching, AT&T owned the poles,
so they deployed fiber within 2 weeks of a
permit. The work usually didn't commence
for a month and by that time, AT&T had went
through and signed up a bunch of customers.
So Google Fiber take rate was not very high
as AT&T built faster than them. AT&T
project managers were given an "unlimited"
budget to beat Google Fiber on every
project. Spectrum would also upgrade those
same areas to latest DOCSIS technology to
deploy gigabit speeds as well.
3. Lots of promises and not a lot
delivered. They know the plant does not
have a long term life and don't feel like
fixing things. So now the city has to deal
with it for the time to come.
That sad part is that a lot of my friends
have it where it is available to them. They
like it a lot and don't want to go back to
AT&T/Spectrum.
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:20 PM Bill Prince
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Sure enough. But if it doesn't get USA
attention, you may be doing a lot of
repairs. Sounds like that's what Google
discovered.
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On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:15 AM Chuck
McCown <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I recently got a quote from a
contractor for microtrenching.
$12/foot asphalt repair, duct and
handholes included. Cheaper than
boring.
*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2019
10:01 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google
fiber bailing on Louisville
From the article: *The tech giant
acknowledged problems in Louisville
with a new method of digging
shallower trenches to speed up the
installation times of the fiber
optic cable. Google says the
problems were "disruptive to
residents and caused service issues
for our customers."*
*
*
Sounds like they tried
microtrenching and then discovered
its limitations, or how little
city/construction crews worry about
hitting fiber when it's at pretty
much street level/directly in their
work area.
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:43 AM
Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
And an unlimited supply of money
does not help. Slow and careful
on a limited budget does work.
Many on this list can prove it.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Saturday, February 09,
2019 9:38 AM
*To:* AFMUG
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Google
fiber bailing on Louisville
Yet another confirmation that
it's not as easy as it looks.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/googles-high-speed-internet-pulling-220020962.html
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