Microfiber works for cheaper/faster/temporary runs or as you said on private, controlled property.
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 12:24 PM Bill Prince <[email protected] wrote: > > I think microfiber can work it is for the end-user hookup, and (probably) > entirely on their property. However, for a main line, or even a trunk, it > sounds like it's maybe just a bit too cheap. > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > > On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:15 AM Matt Hoppes < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I thought the whole issue of 2” deep was brought up when it started and >> was determined and said to be a non issue. >> >> Either because no one would bother it or they would just rerun. >> >> On Feb 9, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> So here's why Google Fiber failed. >> >> 1. Microtrenches were done as little as 2" in some areas. When roads >> got resurfaced, they ate up Google Fiber. Additionally, you could go down >> a road and see foam coming up in some areas. Google Fiber contractors were >> not what I'd call first rate. They were being pressured by the local >> project manager to get things completed fast. Anyone in construction knows >> that means quality can go to shit. >> 2. Anytime a permit was pulled for Google Fiber microtrenching, AT&T >> owned the poles, so they deployed fiber within 2 weeks of a permit. The >> work usually didn't commence for a month and by that time, AT&T had went >> through and signed up a bunch of customers. So Google Fiber take rate was >> not very high as AT&T built faster than them. AT&T project managers were >> given an "unlimited" budget to beat Google Fiber on every project. >> Spectrum would also upgrade those same areas to latest DOCSIS technology to >> deploy gigabit speeds as well. >> 3. Lots of promises and not a lot delivered. They know the plant does >> not have a long term life and don't feel like fixing things. So now the >> city has to deal with it for the time to come. >> >> That sad part is that a lot of my friends have it where it is available >> to them. They like it a lot and don't want to go back to AT&T/Spectrum. >> >> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:20 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Sure enough. But if it doesn't get USA attention, you may be doing a lot >>> of repairs. Sounds like that's what Google discovered. >>> >>> -- >>> bp >>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:15 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I recently got a quote from a contractor for microtrenching. $12/foot >>>> asphalt repair, duct and handholes included. Cheaper than boring. >>>> >>>> *From:* Colin Stanners >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2019 10:01 AM >>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville >>>> >>>> From the article: *The tech giant acknowledged problems in Louisville >>>> with a new method of digging shallower trenches to speed up the >>>> installation times of the fiber optic cable. Google says the problems were >>>> "disruptive to residents and caused service issues for our customers."* >>>> >>>> Sounds like they tried microtrenching and then discovered its >>>> limitations, or how little city/construction crews worry about hitting >>>> fiber when it's at pretty much street level/directly in their work area. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:43 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And an unlimited supply of money does not help. Slow and careful on a >>>>> limited budget does work. Many on this list can prove it. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2019 9:38 AM >>>>> *To:* AFMUG >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yet another confirmation that it's not as easy as it looks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/googles-high-speed-internet-pulling-220020962.html >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> bp >>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Chuck >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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