This an exception to that rule. Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:46 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > so is it safe to now assume "the first one with fiber" does not necessarily > still win? > > obviously ATT got there first so i guess they won.... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Stanners > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:28 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville > > Microfiber works for cheaper/faster/temporary runs or as you said on private, > controlled property. > >> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 12:24 PM Bill Prince <[email protected] wrote: >> >> I think microfiber can work it is for the end-user hookup, and (probably) >> entirely on their property. However, for a main line, or even a trunk, it >> sounds like it's maybe just a bit too cheap. >> >> -- >> bp >> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >> >> >>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:15 AM Matt Hoppes >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I thought the whole issue of 2” deep was brought up when it started and was >>> determined and said to be a non issue. >>> >>> Either because no one would bother it or they would just rerun. >>> >>>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> So here's why Google Fiber failed. >>>> >>>> 1. Microtrenches were done as little as 2" in some areas. When roads got >>>> resurfaced, they ate up Google Fiber. Additionally, you could go down a >>>> road and see foam coming up in some areas. Google Fiber contractors were >>>> not what I'd call first rate. They were being pressured by the local >>>> project manager to get things completed fast. Anyone in construction >>>> knows that means quality can go to shit. >>>> 2. Anytime a permit was pulled for Google Fiber microtrenching, AT&T >>>> owned the poles, so they deployed fiber within 2 weeks of a permit. The >>>> work usually didn't commence for a month and by that time, AT&T had went >>>> through and signed up a bunch of customers. So Google Fiber take rate was >>>> not very high as AT&T built faster than them. AT&T project managers were >>>> given an "unlimited" budget to beat Google Fiber on every project. >>>> Spectrum would also upgrade those same areas to latest DOCSIS technology >>>> to deploy gigabit speeds as well. >>>> 3. Lots of promises and not a lot delivered. They know the plant does >>>> not have a long term life and don't feel like fixing things. So now the >>>> city has to deal with it for the time to come. >>>> >>>> That sad part is that a lot of my friends have it where it is available to >>>> them. They like it a lot and don't want to go back to AT&T/Spectrum. >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:20 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Sure enough. But if it doesn't get USA attention, you may be doing a lot >>>>> of repairs. Sounds like that's what Google discovered. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> bp >>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:15 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I recently got a quote from a contractor for microtrenching. $12/foot >>>>>> asphalt repair, duct and handholes included. Cheaper than boring. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Colin Stanners >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 10:01 AM >>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville >>>>>> >>>>>> From the article: The tech giant acknowledged problems in Louisville >>>>>> with a new method of digging shallower trenches to speed up the >>>>>> installation times of the fiber optic cable. Google says the problems >>>>>> were "disruptive to residents and caused service issues for >>>>>> our customers." >>>>>> >>>>>> Sounds like they tried microtrenching and then discovered its >>>>>> limitations, or how little city/construction crews worry about hitting >>>>>> fiber when it's at pretty much street level/directly in their work area. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:43 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> And an unlimited supply of money does not help. Slow and careful on a >>>>>>> limited budget does work. Many on this list can prove it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Bill Prince >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 9:38 AM >>>>>>> To: AFMUG >>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yet another confirmation that it's not as easy as it looks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/googles-high-speed-internet-pulling-220020962.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> bp >>>>>>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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