I think microfiber can work it is for the end-user hookup, and (probably)
entirely on their property. However, for a main line, or even a trunk, it
sounds like it's maybe just a bit too cheap.
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On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:15 AM Matt Hoppes <
[email protected]> wrote:
> I thought the whole issue of 2” deep was brought up when it started and
> was determined and said to be a non issue.
>
> Either because no one would bother it or they would just rerun.
>
> On Feb 9, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> So here's why Google Fiber failed.
>
> 1. Microtrenches were done as little as 2" in some areas. When roads got
> resurfaced, they ate up Google Fiber. Additionally, you could go down a
> road and see foam coming up in some areas. Google Fiber contractors were
> not what I'd call first rate. They were being pressured by the local
> project manager to get things completed fast. Anyone in construction knows
> that means quality can go to shit.
> 2. Anytime a permit was pulled for Google Fiber microtrenching, AT&T
> owned the poles, so they deployed fiber within 2 weeks of a permit. The
> work usually didn't commence for a month and by that time, AT&T had went
> through and signed up a bunch of customers. So Google Fiber take rate was
> not very high as AT&T built faster than them. AT&T project managers were
> given an "unlimited" budget to beat Google Fiber on every project.
> Spectrum would also upgrade those same areas to latest DOCSIS technology to
> deploy gigabit speeds as well.
> 3. Lots of promises and not a lot delivered. They know the plant does
> not have a long term life and don't feel like fixing things. So now the
> city has to deal with it for the time to come.
>
> That sad part is that a lot of my friends have it where it is available to
> them. They like it a lot and don't want to go back to AT&T/Spectrum.
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:20 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sure enough. But if it doesn't get USA attention, you may be doing a lot
>> of repairs. Sounds like that's what Google discovered.
>>
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>>
>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 9:15 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I recently got a quote from a contractor for microtrenching. $12/foot
>>> asphalt repair, duct and handholes included. Cheaper than boring.
>>>
>>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2019 10:01 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville
>>>
>>> From the article: *The tech giant acknowledged problems in Louisville
>>> with a new method of digging shallower trenches to speed up the
>>> installation times of the fiber optic cable. Google says the problems were
>>> "disruptive to residents and caused service issues for our customers."*
>>>
>>> Sounds like they tried microtrenching and then discovered its
>>> limitations, or how little city/construction crews worry about hitting
>>> fiber when it's at pretty much street level/directly in their work area.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:43 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And an unlimited supply of money does not help. Slow and careful on a
>>>> limited budget does work. Many on this list can prove it.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2019 9:38 AM
>>>> *To:* AFMUG
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: Google fiber bailing on Louisville
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yet another confirmation that it's not as easy as it looks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/googles-high-speed-internet-pulling-220020962.html
>>>>
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