That's how it worked (in her mind) for the first divorce... I did get a bunch of the larger assets because they had debt and I got all of that...

On 2/15/22 10:56, Bill Prince wrote:
Probably (and this is pure speculation) is that I get all the debts, and she gets all the assets.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 2/15/2022 7:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Honestly...probably because she's a woman.  Maybe there are more/less items on her specifically compared to you?

On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 9:00 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

    I think 830-840 was the highest we've ever gotten. For reasons I
    don't
    fully comprehend, my SO's FICO is almost always a few points
    higher than
    mine.


    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 2/14/2022 1:54 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
    > You got me thinking, so I checked my FICO.  Not to brag but I will
    > brag that I have 829 839 839.
    > How in the hell can I get those last 11 points?
    >
    > -----Original Message----- From: Robert
    > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 2:47 PM
    > To: [email protected]
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers
    >
    > Have you had a low ( less than 700 ) credit score in the last 15
    > years?   It really does interesting things to when you buy any
    kind of
    > subscription service ( except ISP )....
    >
    > On 2/14/22 12:38 PM, Brian Webster wrote:
    >> If I am not borrowing money and getting in to or staying in
    debt, why
    >> the hell do I care about my credit score anyway. That's just
    another
    >> construct people have been lulled in to believing. I just save
    money
    >> and pay for this once I have the cash. I am also saving up for my
    >> eventual care when I get old, not expecting the government to
    have to
    >> pay for my old age care. You know actually thinking ahead and
    having
    >> a savings for those eventualities and the fact that inflation
    happens
    >> at a faster pace when you are retired and do not have any more
    >> earning power. The money has to last the rest of your life.
    Inflation
    >> still happens after you retire. But my thoughts like that are
    lost on
    >> most of society and like Mike Hammett is fond of quoting today
    >> "most"  :-)
    >>
    >>
    >> Thank you,
    >> Brian Webster
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert
    Andrews
    >> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 3:10 PM
    >> To: [email protected]
    >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers
    >>
    >> If you keep as little as $20 on only one of your credit cards, your
    >> credit score goes up 50 points.   This is the absolute proof
    that the
    >> money changers are gaming the system...   The confirmation of
    that is
    >> the lowered rates for things like insurance for higher credit
    scores and
    >> how higher credit scores contribute to your evaluation by HR
    for new
    >> jobs...
    >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >>>
    >>> On 2/14/2022 11:29 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
    >>>> The bank really hates you if you have no debt, can't get a
    loan if you
    >>>> have no debt.  My newest car is 22 years old.  My other work
    truck is
    >>>> 54.  My house is paid for.  I'm thinking of putting in solar
    panels
    >>>> and converting my 3rd car into an EV and eventually
    converting the
    >>>> house and well to solar too.  F*** the greedy power company
    and the
    >>>> rigged banks.
    >>>>
    >>>> On 2/14/22 11:15, Brian Webster wrote:
    >>>>> Living in rural America I am not a fan of the range
    limitations. For
    >>>>> me it's not uncommon to have to take a trip 60 to 90 miles
    in one
    >>>>> direction and then back in the same day. It's also not
    uncommon to
    >>>>> want to take a trip and covers 300 or more miles in that day
    on the
    >>>>> long trip. I do not want to be limited to 250 miles before I
    have to
    >>>>> stop for an extended period to recharge. Personally that is
    a serious
    >>>>> limit on my personal freedom of movement. For instance it's not
    >>>>> uncommon for spring or winter breaks to drive from upstate NY to
    >>>>> Florida in a single 24 hour period. When you only have a
    week for
    >>>>> vacation tag team driving to get there with a carload of
    people is
    >>>>> still cheaper than try to fly everyone. Also the restriction
    of being
    >>>>> able to haul larger loads similarly are a big limitation.
    Having a 27
    >>>>> foot camper to load the family up and take a vacation is not
    possible
    >>>>> with the current availability of EV's out there.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Let's also consider the other elephant in the roof, the
    actual cost
    >>>>> of the vehicles. New car prices are outrageous. Personally I
    like to
    >>>>> buy used vehicles with higher mileage and typically pay less
    than 10
    >>>>> grand(usually a lot less) and pay cash for them. I haven't
    had a car
    >>>>> payment in over 15 years and do not want to be forced in to
    having to
    >>>>> do so. With getting closer to retirement age every year, I
    do not
    >>>>> want to be forced in to incurring debt. For me the goal is
    to be debt
    >>>>> free, not have to fork over 30 grand or more just to be able to
    >>>>> continue to transport myself around. People making decisions
    like no
    >>>>> more gas engines for lawn mowers and such, they tend to live
    in some
    >>>>> sort of state of constant debt, if they are in government
    they have
    >>>>> no concept of not being in debt. Most will think I am crazy for
    >>>>> thinking this way because society just wants to accept that
    debt is a
    >>>>> necessary way of life. That debt for purchasing and
    converting to
    >>>>> EV's and getting away from fossil fuels is in my mind not being
    >>>>> fairly considered in the process.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Thank you,
    >>>>> Brian Webster
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> -----Original Message-----
    >>>>> From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
    Robert Andrews
    >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 1:49 PM
    >>>>> To: [email protected]
    >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers
    >>>>>
    >>>>> There are also a bunch of real life tests published on Youtube.
    >>>>> Seems
    >>>>> like everyone in the cold wanted to either brag or complain...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 2/14/22 09:56, [email protected] wrote:
    >>>>>> Since a lot of you guys seem to have first hand experience
    with the
    >>>>>> EV’s
    >>>>>> Ill ask. How do they do on range in cold environments? We
    have often
    >>>>>> wondered how they heat the inside of the vehicle in -10F
    and how it
    >>>>>> affects the range of the vehicle. Those temps are common
    for us in
    >>>>>> January and February.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Thanks,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Brandon
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
    >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 11:15 AM
    >>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
    >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It's not thye electric motors that are at fault. Once the
    battery
    >>>>>> tech
    >>>>>> gets sorted out, there will be no good reason to use dino-fuel.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> bp
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On 2/14/2022 9:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>       Sure, but efficiency isn't everything. Fortunately,
    EVs are
    >>>>>> also
    >>>>>>       better at torque than diesel and gasoline.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>       Where they don't shine is range when actually working.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>       -----
    >>>>>>       Mike Hammett
    >>>>>>       Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
    >>>>>>
    
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    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>       Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
    >>>>>>
    
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    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>       The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
    >>>>>>       <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>       *From: *"Bill Prince" <[email protected]>
    >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>>>>>       *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>>>>>       *Sent: *Monday, February 14, 2022 11:06:28 AM
    >>>>>>       *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>       It's approximately 33 KWH of electricity is
    equivalent to 1
    >>>>>> gallon
    >>>>>>       of gasoline (probably less for diesel), so EVs with
    60-80 KWH
    >>>>>>       batteries are running a couple hundred miles (or
    more) on the
    >>>>>> rough
    >>>>>>       equivalent of < 3 gallons of gas.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>       bp
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>       On 2/14/2022 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>           The funny thing is that while diesel has superior
    >>>>>> performance to
    >>>>>>           gasoline in many ways, EVs have superior
    performance to
    >>>>>> diesel
    >>>>>>           in many ways.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>           Kinda ironic...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>           -----
    >>>>>>           Mike Hammett
    >>>>>>           Intelligent Computing Solutions
    <http://www.ics-il.com/>
    >>>>>>
    
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    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>           Midwest Internet Exchange
    <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
    >>>>>>
    
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    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>           The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
    >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>           *From: *"Bill Prince" <[email protected]>
    >>>>>>           <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>>>>>           *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>>>>>           *Sent: *Monday, February 14, 2022 9:46:36 AM
    >>>>>>           *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Numbers
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>           It's called "rolling coal", and it is all the
    rage for
    >>>>>> people
    >>>>>>           who think EVs are the devil's spawn.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>           bp
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>           On 2/14/2022 6:38 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>               In the past year I've observed that agressive
    driving
    >>>>>> seems
    >>>>>>               to be the norm now. More assholes, especially
    pickups
    >>>>>> using
    >>>>>>               farm diesel (black-foul-smelling-smoke). I been
    >>>>>> thinking of
    >>>>>>               investing in a stash of bumper stickers to
    stick on
    >>>>>> their
    >>>>>>               trucks that says "shoot me please".
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>               On 2/13/22 12:28, Steve Jones wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                   Its possible that with the lower
    threshold more
    >>>>>> folks
    >>>>>>                   were able to be arrested before they
    couldgo fora
    >>>>>>                   croaker cruise.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                   Its more probable though that ride
    sharing grew
    >>>>>> during
    >>>>>>                   that period and the generation of party
    drinkers
    >>>>>> used it
    >>>>>>                   more as a matter of trend.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                   Drinking establishments being closed or
    otherwise
    >>>>>>                   inaccessible due to the rona too probably
    >>>>>> playeda huge
    >>>>>>                   role, like the seeming disappearance of flu.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                   On Sun, Feb 13, 2022, 1:33 PM Chuck
    McCown via AF
    >>>>>>                   <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                       During Covid, in Utah, there have
    been the
    >>>>>> highest
    >>>>>>                       rate of deaths ever recorded due to car
    >>>>>> crashes.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                       Meanwhile, at approximately the same
    time
    >>>>>> another
    >>>>>>                       experiment was running.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                       Late 2018 Utah lowered the blood alcohol
    >>>>>> level for
    >>>>>>                       driving from .08 to .05%.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                       Many, including myself, figured that
    there
    >>>>>> would not
    >>>>>>                       be a significant difference.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                       But I also commented at the time that
    this one
    >>>>>> will
    >>>>>>                       be easy to prove or disprove.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>                       Deaths and crashes linked to drunken
    driving
    >>>>>> dropped
    >>>>>>                       by 19.8% since the law took effect.  I
    >>>>>> think one
    >>>>>>                       could say that is statistically
    significant.
    >>>>>> Glad I
    >>>>>>                       was wrong.
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