3 nuclear incidents, workplace mishaps are workplace mishaps, morons get impaled often, thats simply darwinian logistics. Thats like saying a drill crew member that walked into traffic got killed in an internet related incident
On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 3:32 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote: > There have been three Massive incidents. There have been dozens of > lesser incidents, many have cost lives... The very first incident killed > three guys in the most gruesome way... Nothing nice about being impaled > by a couple control rods & being stuck to the top of the containment > vessel... > > On 10/27/25 11:01 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > > The spent fuel is no longer a major issue since the gen3 reactors will > reuse the old spent fuel, 96% of it, so theres no real new waste for the > foreseeable future, but I assume the gen3 spent will be way > mor radioactive. > > Around here its definitely bean and food corn crop being built over. I > dont know what the miles per acre ethanol/vs solar is. other than the spent > fuel and irradiated containment, the volume of toxic output over the > reactor life of 80 years, the entire solar/wind will have gone through a > minimum 3 iterations of toxic landfill waste. > > Nuclear has had 3 total incidents, all three were human arrogance gone > awry. Id like to think the safeguards, particularly in the gen 3 reactors > will all but eliminate those, and none of the terrible outcomes were as bad > as they were presented, even chernobyl. (still terrible, just not what we > were told they were and would be) > > I personally think data centers should be banned in all metropolitan > radius and be mandated to build small footprint gen3 reactors that provide > 150% of their demand, with the 50% being distributed to the infrastructure > at no gain to the datacenter, as opposed to the current modality where they > get bulk rate discounts that we end consumers suffer increased rates for > due to supply and demand. The leftards should love my plan, its socialism > of the power grid, the evil billionaire megacorporations paying their fair > share, but lets face facts here, libiots are fucking liars and have no > interest in actually doing any of the garbage they spout out. Hell let > Excelon operate them so the ninnys who would wine about "private" ownership > of reactors dont get their twat snot all over their panties. > > Sure it will be 5 to 10 years and we have to bang the fat girl we took > home til then, but with actual, rational planning, we would be on the verge > of no longer suffering power shortages in under a decade. But who wants to > actually solve problems, amirite? > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 11:44 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think the waste (spent fuel) disposal issue was bigger than people >> remember. Big NIMBY problem. Remember Yucca Mountain? >> >> >> >> The other issue is commissioning time and cost. You can spin up a solar >> farm in like 6 months, with almost no regulatory issues unless you need a >> zoning variance. Just make a deal with the landowners. I’ll drive by a >> field and see some pickup trucks and a crew putting in stakes, a month >> later I drive by and there are solar panels, and a month after that it’s >> hooked up to the grid. After the fact people will whine on Facebook they >> are taking good farmland for solar, but actually that land grew corn to >> make into ethanol for blending with gasoline. So you can grow corn to fuel >> gasoline cars or grow electricity to fuel EVs. Different means, same >> result. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2025 11:30 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Re: now we're blowing up boats in the >> Pacific >> >> >> >> Don't forget Chernobyl. >> >> The exclusion zone around Chernobyl is a restricted area in Ukraine and >> Belarus established after the 1986 nuclear disaster, with an initial radius >> of about 30 kilometers (18.6 miles) that was later expanded. Today, it >> covers an area of approximately 1,600 square miles (4,143 square km) in >> Ukraine, with a separate zone on the Belarusian side called the Polesie >> State Radioecological Reserve. >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 10/27/2025 9:14 AM, Robert wrote: >> >> Nuclear, A handful of acres... Now who's smoking crack... Try at >> least 2 miles square with buffer zones and towers and aux facilities... >> Diablo Canyon, which is a more recent plant, doesn't need towers due to >> ocean water cooling, and it's exclusion area is 2 miles on a side. Now >> if you want to talk pie in the sky they are saying the new plants, which >> there are none, are going to be 1/2 mile exclusion. But again, you want >> to live/work within that space? >> >> Solar isn't any worse than Nuk and a whole lot less support facilities >> and no shutting down the land use for the next 50-100 years. Some solar >> facilities are being raised off the ground by 10 feet to make the areas >> below usable, which is a benefit to the land owner. >> >> Around N. Nevada, the electrical companies are throwing up panels left >> and right. Getting BLM land isn't that expensive and the power goes right >> next door to the server farms. >> >> Redwood Industries, the massive lithium recycling company is taking the >> battery packs that are 99% ok and fixing the couple bad cells and packaging >> them into lower cost power banks in containers. >> >> My knock on Solar is that the weather is getting worse and the damage to >> the facilities is, in a lot of cases, worked around instead of being >> repaired. Easier to just throw up more area than repair large scale damage >> for a year because old panels are a pita to fix... >> >> On 10/27/25 7:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >> >> AIs don't smoke. >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 10/26/2025 5:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >> >> How much meth was smoked before this post? >> >> >> >> You ever see the land lease and neigbor contacts on these? >> >> >> >> Nuclear, a handful of acres >> >> >> >> Same solar 4 to 6000 acres >> >> >> >> Same wind 100s of square miles >> >> >> >> 24x7 vs good times >> >> >> >> Once we bust the NRC and get gen3 reactors online, we will start giving >> salmon their habitat back >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2025, 12:29 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Petro-dollars are quickly becoming worthless. We've reached the point >> where renewables (mainly solar) are the fastest, cheapest way to get power >> to the grid. That will be the main driver going forward. Just in the first >> half of this year China has put up over 200 GW of solar power. That is >> roughly equivalent to 200 nuclear reactors. They did that in six months, >> and it would have taken decades if it was nuclear. >> >> A barrel of oil is now around $60, and we are going into a glut, which >> will drive the price of oil downward. If the price gets much below $50, >> then all of a sudden all the shale-oil becomes a loser, and will get shut >> down. >> >> It will be interesting how this plays out, but I'm not betting on oil. >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 10/25/2025 5:30 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote: >> >> It doesn't work that way. The petrol-dollar assholes will just get the >> government to make it illegal and force us to use gas. >> >> On 10/24/25 19:46, Steve Jones wrote: >> >> George and Gracie did a skit >> >> "If we had some eggs, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some ham" >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025, 12:05 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> IF we actually got functioning Fusion, the greatest benefit would be >> being able to just forget about all these places... Take away the >> petrodollar and they would blow away in the desert winds... >> >> On 10/24/25 9:28 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> Yemen has a 10 year old civil war, partly a proxy war between Iran and >> the Saudis. Yemen was formed by the merger of North Yemen and South Yemen, >> the latter was a former British colony. >> >> >> >> The Houthis are technically a “movement” but they control the capital and >> much of the territory and have their own government structure. The >> internationally recognized and Saudi supported government moved to Adan in >> the south after the Houthi revolution or coup. It looks to me like the >> split might be roughly the former North Yemen under control of the Houthis >> and the former South Yemen under control of the internationally recognized >> government. I seem to remember that the Houthis were threatening to take >> control of the whole country when the Saudis intervened. But the Saudis >> were mainly just bombing stuff. >> >> >> >> The Houthis are Iranian puppets so you could compare them to Hezbollah, >> but maybe more like revolutionaries, they control a good chunk of Yemen. >> Not nice people. >> >> >> >> But Yemen is a mess. I think I read the British left because of >> widespread terrorism and that was decades ago. If a giant sinkhole >> swallowed the whole place, we would probably say good riddance. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On >> Behalf Of *Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2025 10:08 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >> >> >> >> Are the Houthis an actual country, or just another Al-Qaeda kind of group? >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 10/24/2025 7:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> So are the Houthis justified sinking vessels in the Red Sea from >> companies and countries that support Israel’s war in Gaza? >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On >> Behalf Of *Carl Peterson >> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2025 9:40 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >> >> >> >> The Daily had a really good bit on this yesterday. Not >> particularly about blowing up boats but about the competing interests in >> the Trump administration re Venezuela. It's a great 30 min listen. >> >> >> >> Background: Maduro lost the last election in a landslide (30%/70%) but >> refused to cede power. >> >> >> >> TLDL: >> >> Trump wanted to cut a deal and was working on it but Rubio won out and is >> focused on regime change. >> >> >> >> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/23/podcasts/the-daily/us-venezuela-maduro-boat-attacks.html >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 9:33 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Heh >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 9:13 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Might be safer to have a Maple Leaf flag. You could always run the stars >> and bars, at least they would presume you would be armed and would fight. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2025 7:41 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >> >> >> >> So that American flag on the back is going to protect me from the various >> other countries that decide to even up the score? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2025, at 9:10 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Stop smuggling and you will be just fine…. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 23, 2025 6:57 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >> >> >> >> Someday I would really like to be able to sail around the Caribbean and >> South America without having to worry about being randomly blown out of the >> water for no reason at all. “Well, the US said it was OK to kill people >> in international waters”. >> >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2025, at 1:31 AM, Jason McKemie < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> It seems very telling that when they blew up a boat and people survived, >> they sent them back to their home country vs prosecuting them. You can't >> introduce that testimony into the public record. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:44 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Replying to myself, which is perhaps a sign I should be in therapy, but I >> just realized one reason why the Coast Guard is underappreciated or at >> least unknown compared to Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. They are part >> of DHS not DOD. >> >> >> >> But now that DOD is calling itself the Department of War, maybe DHS is >> just fine. Although one is Hegseth and the other is Noem, so flip a coin. >> >> >> >> Coast Guard is also much smaller, has a smaller budget, and a much >> smaller PR budget. No money to toot their own horn. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 10:50 PM >> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >> >> >> >> Yeah, but if it’s on the ocean, I’d prefer to see a Hawaii Five 0 style >> chase. With McGarrett in a speedboat, and at the end he says “book ‘em, >> Danno”. >> >> >> >> Besides, I think the Coasties are an underappreciated branch of the US >> military. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 8:31 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >> >> >> >> I prefer to see cartels bombed. When they started moving the fent, they >> chose bombs. A little nose candy here and there, some dope, a little >> crystal, even some heroin was manageable. But these ducks decided to move >> shit that one mistake kills. Fuckbag dealers are putting it it club drugs >> and on vicodins. Kids don't have a chance to make a mistake. >> >> >> >> Bomb the shit out of them. Sink their boats, cut their life jackets, chum >> the waters, I don't care as long as they die. They don't want to give our >> kids a second chance, their adults deserve as terrible a death as possible. >> Idgaf about human rights, they don't, and I have no interest in the high >> road. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 6:45 PM Dev <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Turns out drug dealers sometimes get shot, who knew? Maybe they were >> delivering critical supplies to orphanages, because speedboats with three >> engines mean urgent care is being delivered expeditiously? >> >> >> >> On Oct 22, 2025, at 3:03 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Article on the latest generation of US Coast Guard “Over The Horizon” >> boats. >> >> >> https://www.workboat.com/shipbuilding/test-driving-the-coast-guard-s-new-over-the-horizon-cutter-boat >> >> >> >> Generally deployed from a ramp on the back of a larger cutter along with >> helicopters. These things vaguely remind me of the WWII PT boats. >> >> >> >> I would not want to try and outrun the Coast Guard. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 4:24 PM >> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >> >> >> >> Yes, and that's the primary argument against this practice. If we have >> solid intel that they're carrying drugs, and we know where they are, then >> as soon as they enter our territorial waters we can board the boat and >> arrest them. The Coast Guard doesn't need a warrant or even a specific >> reason to board a boat. Some of those boats are faster than Cutters, but I >> don't have solid info on how often they actually escape when they're >> already being tracked. It's hard to imagine they really get away often >> because the Coast Guard also has helicopters, and they're allowed to >> continue a pursuit into international waters (and onto land) as long as the >> pursuit started in US waters. >> >> >> >> Regardless of how often they really get away, it's not normal to blow up >> someone's boat as a law enforcement action. We also don't execute drug >> traffickers, and even when the state executes someone there's a trial >> first. >> >> >> >> but..... >> >> 1. post-911 we treat foreign terrorist organizations as enemy >> combatants >> >> >> 1. the executive branch gets to decide who counts as an FTO. The sec >> of state, sec of treasury, and attorney general all have to agree, but >> they >> also all have the same boss. >> >> >> 1. Nobody can really stop the executive branch from declaring an FTO. >> >> >> 1. Congress could pass a bill to override someone's listing as an >> FTO, but to date they've never done it. >> >> >> 1. The courts could overturn an FTO listing, but for a lot of reasons >> it's almost impossible. >> >> >> >> >> >> So effectively the President and/or their cabinet has a completely legal >> pathway to authorize military force against just about anyone, and there's >> very little anyone can do about it. It's not that I have sympathy for drug >> smugglers, it's that all we can do is take someone's word for it that it >> was a drug smuggler. If anyone is totally comfortable with that then I'm >> curious what your rationale is. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Hohhof < >> [email protected]> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 3:00 PM >> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >> >> >> >> *https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361 >> <https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361>* >> >> >> >> I thought the Coast Guard was able to intercept boats and board them, >> arrest people and confiscate cargo. 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