With a 400 watt panel costing less than $200
in bulk, not surprising. But I do not see the data of solar
field fires, damage, etc. that is the rest of the story... I
wonder what the maintenance cost of solar is compared to other
power sources. Tiny, comparable, what?
On 10/27/25 4:35 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
EIA: Solar + storage dominate, fossil fuels stagnate to August
2025
Solar and battery storage continue to dominate growth
among energy sources, while fossil fuels and nuclear power
have stagnated. That’s according to data just released by
the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), which was
reviewed by the SUN DAY Campaign.
Solar electrical generation sets new records
EIA’s latest monthly “Electric Power Monthly” report (with
data through August 31, 2025), once again confirms that
solar is the fastest-growing among the major sources of US
electricity.
Nuclear, A handful of
acres... Now who's smoking crack... Try at least 2
miles square with buffer zones and towers and aux
facilities... Diablo Canyon, which is a more recent
plant, doesn't need towers due to ocean water cooling,
and it's exclusion area is 2 miles on a side. Now if
you want to talk pie in the sky they are saying the new
plants, which there are none, are going to be 1/2 mile
exclusion. But again, you want to live/work within
that space?
Solar isn't any worse than Nuk and a whole lot less
support facilities and no shutting down the land use for
the next 50-100 years. Some solar facilities are being
raised off the ground by 10 feet to make the areas below
usable, which is a benefit to the land owner.
Around N. Nevada, the electrical companies are throwing
up panels left and right. Getting BLM land isn't that
expensive and the power goes right next door to the
server farms.
Redwood Industries, the massive lithium recycling
company is taking the battery packs that are 99% ok and
fixing the couple bad cells and packaging them into
lower cost power banks in containers.
My knock on Solar is that the weather is getting worse and
the damage to the facilities is, in a lot of cases, worked
around instead of being repaired. Easier to just throw up
more area than repair large scale damage for a year
because old panels are a pita to fix...
On 10/27/25 7:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
AIs don't smoke.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 10/26/2025 5:34 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
How much meth was smoked before this post?
You ever see the land lease and
neigbor contacts on these?
Nuclear, a handful of acres
Same solar 4 to 6000 acres
Same wind 100s of square miles
24x7 vs good times
Once we bust the NRC and get gen3
reactors online, we will start giving salmon their
habitat back
On Sun, Oct
26, 2025, 12:29 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]>
wrote:
Petro-dollars are quickly becoming
worthless. We've reached the point where
renewables (mainly solar) are the fastest,
cheapest way to get power to the grid.
That will be the main driver going
forward. Just in the first half of this
year China has put up over 200 GW of solar
power. That is roughly equivalent to 200
nuclear reactors. They did that in six
months, and it would have taken decades if
it was nuclear.
A barrel of oil is now around $60, and we
are going into a glut, which will drive
the price of oil downward. If the price
gets much below $50, then all of a sudden
all the shale-oil becomes a loser, and
will get shut down.
It will be interesting how this plays
out, but I'm not betting on oil.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 10/25/2025 5:30 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
It doesn't work that way. The
petrol-dollar assholes will just get the
government to make it illegal and force
us to use gas.
On 10/24/25 19:46, Steve Jones wrote:
George and Gracie did a
skit
"If we had some eggs,
we could have ham and eggs, if we
had some ham"
IF we
actually got functioning Fusion,
the greatest benefit would be
being able to just forget about
all these places... Take away
the petrodollar and they would
blow away in the desert winds...
On 10/24/25 9:28 AM, Ken
Hohhof wrote:
Yemen
has a 10 year old civil
war, partly a proxy war
between Iran and the
Saudis. Yemen was formed
by the merger of North
Yemen and South Yemen, the
latter was a former
British colony.
The
Houthis are technically a
“movement” but they
control the capital and
much of the territory and
have their own government
structure. The
internationally recognized
and Saudi supported
government moved to Adan
in the south after the
Houthi revolution or
coup. It looks to me like
the split might be roughly
the former North Yemen
under control of the
Houthis and the former
South Yemen under control
of the internationally
recognized government. I
seem to remember that the
Houthis were threatening
to take control of the
whole country when the
Saudis intervened. But
the Saudis were mainly
just bombing stuff.
The
Houthis are Iranian
puppets so you could
compare them to Hezbollah,
but maybe more like
revolutionaries, they
control a good chunk of
Yemen. Not nice people.
But
Yemen is a mess. I think
I read the British left
because of widespread
terrorism and that was
decades ago. If a giant
sinkhole swallowed the
whole place, we would
probably say good
riddance.
From: AF <[email protected]>On Behalf
Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday,
October 24, 2025 10:08
AM To:[email protected] Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] now we're
blowing up boats in
the Pacific
Are the Houthis an actual
country, or just another
Al-Qaeda kind of group?
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On
10/24/2025 7:53 AM, Ken
Hohhof wrote:
So
are the Houthis
justified sinking
vessels in the Red Sea
from companies and
countries that support
Israel’s war in Gaza?
From: AF <[email protected]>On Behalf
Of Carl
Peterson Sent: Friday,
October 24, 2025 9:40
AM To: AnimalFarm
Microwave Users Group
<[email protected]> Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] now we're
blowing up boats in
the Pacific
The
Daily had a really good
bit on this yesterday.
Not particularly about
blowing up boats but
about the competing
interests in the Trump
administration re
Venezuela. It's a great
30 min listen.
Background:
Maduro lost the last
election in a
landslide (30%/70%)
but refused to cede
power.
TLDL:
Trump
wanted to cut a deal
and was working on it
but Rubio won out and
is focused on
regime change.
On
Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at
9:33PM Steve Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:
Heh
On
Thu, Oct 23, 2025,
9:13PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
wrote:
Might
be safer to
have a Maple
Leaf flag.
You could
always run the
stars and
bars, at least
they would
presume you
would be armed
and would
fight.
From: AF [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf
Of Mark
Radabaugh Sent:
Thursday,
October 23,
2025 7:41 PM To:
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<[email protected]> Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
now we're
blowing up
boats in the
Pacific
So that American flag on the back is going to protect
me from the
various other
countries that
decide to even
up the score?
From: AF [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf
Of Mark
Radabaugh Sent:
Thursday,
October 23,
2025 6:57 AM To:
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<[email protected]> Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
now we're
blowing up
boats in the
Pacific
Someday I would really like to be able to sail around
the Caribbean
and South
America
without having
to worry about
being randomly
blown out of
the water for
no reason at
all. “Well,
the US said it
was OK to kill
people in
international
waters”.
Mark
On Oct 23, 2025, at 1:31AM, Jason McKemie <[email protected]>
wrote:
It seems very telling that when they blew up a boat
and people
survived, they
sent them back
to their home
country vs
prosecuting
them. You
can't
introduce that
testimony into
the public
record.
Replying to myself, which
is perhaps a
sign I should
be in therapy,
but I just
realized one
reason why the
Coast Guard is
underappreciated or at least unknown compared to Army, Navy, Air Force
and Marines.
They are part
of DHS not
DOD.
But now that DOD is
calling itself
the Department
of War, maybe
DHS is just
fine.
Although one
is Hegseth and
the other is
Noem, so flip
a coin.
Coast Guard is also much
smaller, has a
smaller
budget, and a
much smaller
PR budget. No
money to toot
their own
horn.
From: AF <[email protected]>
On Behalf
Of Ken
Hohhof Sent:
Wednesday,
October 22,
2025 10:50 PM To:
'AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group'
<[email protected]> Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
now we're
blowing up
boats in the
Pacific
Yeah, but if it’s on the
ocean, I’d
prefer to see
a Hawaii Five
0 style
chase. With
McGarrett in a
speedboat, and
at the end he
says “book
‘em, Danno”.
Besides, I think the
Coasties are
an
underappreciated
branch of the
US military.
From: AF <[email protected]>
On Behalf
Of Steve
Jones Sent:
Wednesday,
October 22,
2025 8:31 PM To:
AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group
<[email protected]> Subject:
Re: [AFMUG]
now we're
blowing up
boats in the
Pacific
I prefer to see cartels bombed. When they started
moving the
fent, they
chose bombs. A
little nose
candy here and
there, some
dope, a little
crystal, even
some heroin
was
manageable.
But these
ducks decided
to move shit
that one
mistake kills.
Fuckbag
dealers are
putting it it
club drugs and
on vicodins.
Kids don't
have a chance
to make a
mistake.
Bomb the shit out of them. Sink their boats, cut their
life jackets,
chum the
waters, I
don't care as
long as they
die. They
don't want to
give our kids
a second
chance, their
adults deserve
as terrible a
death as
possible.
Idgaf about
human rights,
they don't,
and I have no
interest in
the high road.
Turns out drug dealers sometimes get shot, who knew?
Maybe they
were
delivering
critical
supplies to
orphanages,
because
speedboats
with three
engines mean
urgent care is
being
delivered
expeditiously?
Generally deployed from a
ramp on the
back of a
larger cutter
along with
helicopters.
These things
vaguely remind
me of the WWII
PT boats.
I would not want to try
and outrun the
Coast Guard.
From: AF <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Adam
Moffett Sent: Wednesday,
October 22,
2025 4:24 PM To: 'AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group'
<[email protected]> Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] now
we're blowing
up boats in
the Pacific
Yes, and that's the primary argument against this
practice. If
we have solid
intel that
they're
carrying
drugs, and we
know where
they are, then
as soon as
they enter our
territorial
waters we can
board the boat
and arrest
them. The
Coast Guard
doesn't need a
warrant or
even a
specific
reason to
board a boat.
Some of those
boats are
faster than
Cutters, but I
don't have
solid info on
how often they
actually
escape when
they're
already being
tracked. It's
hard to
imagine they
really get
away often
because the
Coast Guard
also has
helicopters,
and they're
allowed to
continue a
pursuit into
international
waters (and
onto land) as
long as the
pursuit
started in US
waters.
Regardless of how often they really get away, it's not
normal to blow
up someone's
boat as a law
enforcement
action. We
also don't
execute drug
traffickers,
and even when
the state
executes
someone
there's a
trial first.
but.....
post-911 we treat foreign terrorist organizations as
enemy
combatants
the executive branch gets to decide who counts as an
FTO. The sec
of state, sec
of treasury,
and attorney
general all
have to agree,
but they also
all have the
same boss.
Nobody can really stop the executive branch from
declaring an
FTO.
Congress could pass a bill to override someone's
listing as an
FTO, but to
date they've
never done
it.
The courts could overturn an FTO listing, but for a
lot of reasons
it's almost
impossible.
So effectively the President and/or their cabinet has
a completely
legal pathway
to authorize
military force
against just
about anyone,
and there's
very little
anyone can do
about it.
It's not that
I have
sympathy for
drug
smugglers,
it's that all
we can do is
take someone's
word for it
that it was a
drug
smuggler. If
anyone is
totally
comfortable
with that then
I'm curious
what your
rationale is.
From: AF <[email protected]>
on behalf of
Ken Hohhof
<[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday,
October 22,
2025 3:00 PM To: 'AnimalFarm
Microwave
Users Group'
<[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG]
now we're
blowing up
boats in the
Pacific
I thought the
Coast Guard
was able to
intercept
boats and
board them,
arrest people
and confiscate
cargo. I seem
to remember
they
specifically
acquired high
speed boats
that were a
match for
anything a
drug runner
might have.
