Nothing personal intended. I apply it equally to all Apple users. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:51:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment 


Guys, there is no need for personal attacks here. I thought this was a friendly 
debate. How about we agree to disagree. 

Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield 

On May 16, 2015, at 1:20 PM, joseph marsh < [email protected] > wrote: 





You got that right!!! 
On May 16, 2015 2:16 PM, "Mike Hammett" < [email protected] > wrote: 
> 
> The only thing that works best on Apple products are idiots. 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> http://www.ics-il.com 
> 
> ________________________________ 
> From: "Brett A Mansfield" < [email protected] > 
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:11:41 PM 
> 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment 
> 
> I'm the farthest right wing conservative you're likely to ever meet, not rich 
> but not poor, and white. I only use PC if there is an absolute reason for 
> it...and that is extremely rare. All of the best networking tools work best 
> on mac. 
> 
> Thank you, 
> Brett A Mansfield 
> 
> > On May 16, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] > wrote: 
> > 
> > Apples, (black)Lincolns and Birkenstocks are for rich liberal democrats. 
> > 
> > PCs (specifically Dells), white Cadillacs and Ostrich Boots are for rich 
> > conservative republicans. 
> > 
> > Republican boys like to date democrat girls but marry republican girls (and 
> > later cheat with democrat divorcees). 
> > 
> > Democrat girls like to date democrat boys but they are all too poor and 
> > stoned and majoring in liberal arts or political science. 
> > 
> > Republican girls just run around with each other getting drunk until some 
> > republican boy sobers up enough to ask them for marriage. 
> > 
> > Poor republican boys get reality shows involving guns, mud, moonshine and 
> > wrestling animals in a swamp. 
> > 
> > Poor democrat boys wear shirts with political causes printed on them, hang 
> > out with Goth cutter girls and smoke cigarettes. 
> > 
> > Give a republican boy a welder and he will make a swamp buggy out of an old 
> > VW. 
> > Give a democrat boy a welder and he will turn it into an objet d'art 
> > symbolizing the military industrial oppression of the worker. 
> > 
> > And that is why there are so many apple haters here... 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield 
> > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:43 PM 
> 
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment 
> > 
> > I buy all of my groceries at Walmart and most of my electronics at apple. 
> > There are a lot of apple haters on here it seems. 
> > 
> > I can walk a customer through setting up their AirPort Extreme a lot easier 
> > than Asus, netgear, or dlink. The Apple interface never changes. It's the 
> > same for every model. The others change their gui quite frequently. 
> > 
> > Thank you, 
> > Brett A Mansfield 
> > 
> >> On May 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I remember telling a customer he should either learn how to configure his 
> >> AirPort himself, get AppleCare, or get a regular router like a Linksys or 
> >> Netgear with a web GUI if he expected his ISP to provide step-by-step 
> >> phone support. 
> >> 
> >> He said he would go out and buy a non-Apple router. 
> >> 
> >> He came back with a TimeMachine. 
> >> 
> >> That's another thing I hate about Apple, they have to use special names 
> >> for ordinary things, so people don't compare prices. So you don't have a 
> >> router, you have an AirPort. You don't have an external hard drive, you 
> >> have a TimeMachine. 
> >> 
> >> But just like some people only shop at WalMart, some people only shop for 
> >> electronics at the Apple Store. Probably the same people who buy all their 
> >> groceries at Whole Foods. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince 
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:06 PM 
> >> To: [email protected] 
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment 
> >> 
> >> No doubt. 
> >> 
> >> The least they could do is to give it a web GUI. Beyond me why it has to 
> >> be some proprietary interface. 
> >> 
> >> bp 
> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
> >> 
> >>>> On 5/16/2015 10:37 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: 
> >>>> On 5/16/15 10:17, Bill Prince wrote: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Plus, for reasons that are not clear to me, Apple has to change the way 
> >>>> the stupid AirPort admin tool works every month or two. So even if you 
> >>>> knew how to set it up in August; come September it's a whole new ball 
> >>>> game. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Software developers need to do something. 
> >>> 
> >>> ~Seth 
> > 
> 
> 



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