Actually I find the whole thing funny.


Most SysAdmins/Network admins/programmers I know use Mac’s since its core is 
built on Unix.  But I hated supporting it during my WISP days too.



I just bought a brand new Dell though, but have an iPad Air and an iPhone 5s.  
What does that make me *dazed and confused*?



I also have a RB2011 as my home router and a Ubnt UniFi AP AC as my home Wi-Fi. 
 I am weird lol.



Daniel White

(303) 746-3590



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment



Nothing personal intended. I apply it equally to all Apple users.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



  _____

From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com 
<mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> >
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:51:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

Guys, there is no need for personal attacks here. I thought this was a friendly 
debate. How about we agree to disagree.

Thank you,

Brett A Mansfield


On May 16, 2015, at 1:20 PM, joseph marsh <bwireless...@gmail.com 
<mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com> > wrote:

You got that right!!!
On May 16, 2015 2:16 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:
>
> The only thing that works best on Apple products are idiots.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com 
> <mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> >
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:11:41 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
>
> I'm the farthest right wing conservative you're likely to ever meet, not rich 
> but not poor, and white. I only use PC if there is an absolute reason for 
> it...and that is extremely rare. All of the best networking tools work best 
> on mac.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> > On May 16, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com 
> > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:
> >
> > Apples, (black)Lincolns and Birkenstocks are for rich liberal democrats.
> >
> > PCs (specifically Dells), white Cadillacs and Ostrich Boots are for rich 
> > conservative republicans.
> >
> > Republican boys like to date democrat girls but marry republican girls (and 
> > later cheat with democrat divorcees).
> >
> > Democrat girls like to date democrat boys but they are all too poor and 
> > stoned and majoring in liberal arts or political science.
> >
> > Republican girls just run around with each other getting drunk until some 
> > republican boy sobers up enough to ask them for marriage.
> >
> > Poor republican boys get reality shows involving guns, mud, moonshine and 
> > wrestling animals in a swamp.
> >
> > Poor democrat boys wear shirts with political causes printed on them, hang 
> > out with Goth cutter girls and smoke cigarettes.
> >
> > Give a republican boy a welder and he will make a swamp buggy out  of an 
> > old VW.
> > Give a democrat boy a welder and he will turn it into an objet d'art 
> > symbolizing the military industrial oppression of the worker.
> >
> > And that  is why there are so many apple haters here...
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
> > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:43 PM
>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
> >
> > I buy all of my groceries at Walmart and most of my electronics at apple. 
> > There are a lot of apple haters on here it seems.
> >
> > I can walk a customer through setting up their AirPort Extreme a lot easier 
> > than Asus, netgear, or dlink. The Apple interface never changes. It's the 
> > same for every model. The others change their gui quite frequently.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Brett A Mansfield
> >
> >> On May 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
> >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I remember telling a customer he should either learn how to configure his 
> >> AirPort himself, get AppleCare, or get a regular router like a Linksys or 
> >> Netgear with a web GUI if he expected his ISP to provide step-by-step 
> >> phone support.
> >>
> >> He said he would go out and buy a non-Apple router.
> >>
> >> He came back with a TimeMachine.
> >>
> >> That's another thing I hate about Apple, they have to use special names 
> >> for ordinary things, so people don't compare prices.  So you don't have a 
> >> router, you have an AirPort.  You don't have an external hard drive, you 
> >> have a TimeMachine.
> >>
> >> But just like some people only shop at WalMart, some people only shop for 
> >> electronics at the Apple Store.  Probably the same people who buy all 
> >> their groceries at Whole Foods.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:06 PM
> >> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
> >>
> >> No doubt.
> >>
> >> The least they could do is to give it a web GUI. Beyond me why it has to
> >> be some proprietary interface.
> >>
> >> bp
> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>
> >>>> On 5/16/2015 10:37 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> >>>> On 5/16/15 10:17, Bill Prince wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Plus, for reasons that are not clear to me, Apple has to change the way
> >>>> the stupid AirPort admin tool works every month or two. So even if you
> >>>> knew how to set it up in August; come September it's a whole new ball 
> >>>> game.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Software developers need to do something.
> >>>
> >>> ~Seth
> >
>
>





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