Actually I find the whole thing funny.
Most SysAdmins/Network admins/programmers I know use Mac’s since its core is built on Unix. But I hated supporting it during my WISP days too. I just bought a brand new Dell though, but have an iPad Air and an iPhone 5s. What does that make me *dazed and confused*? I also have a RB2011 as my home router and a Ubnt UniFi AP AC as my home Wi-Fi. I am weird lol. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment Nothing personal intended. I apply it equally to all Apple users. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _____ From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com <mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:51:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment Guys, there is no need for personal attacks here. I thought this was a friendly debate. How about we agree to disagree. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 16, 2015, at 1:20 PM, joseph marsh <bwireless...@gmail.com <mailto:bwireless...@gmail.com> > wrote: You got that right!!! On May 16, 2015 2:16 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: > > The only thing that works best on Apple products are idiots. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ________________________________ > From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com > <mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> > > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:11:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment > > I'm the farthest right wing conservative you're likely to ever meet, not rich > but not poor, and white. I only use PC if there is an absolute reason for > it...and that is extremely rare. All of the best networking tools work best > on mac. > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield > > > On May 16, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com > > <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: > > > > Apples, (black)Lincolns and Birkenstocks are for rich liberal democrats. > > > > PCs (specifically Dells), white Cadillacs and Ostrich Boots are for rich > > conservative republicans. > > > > Republican boys like to date democrat girls but marry republican girls (and > > later cheat with democrat divorcees). > > > > Democrat girls like to date democrat boys but they are all too poor and > > stoned and majoring in liberal arts or political science. > > > > Republican girls just run around with each other getting drunk until some > > republican boy sobers up enough to ask them for marriage. > > > > Poor republican boys get reality shows involving guns, mud, moonshine and > > wrestling animals in a swamp. > > > > Poor democrat boys wear shirts with political causes printed on them, hang > > out with Goth cutter girls and smoke cigarettes. > > > > Give a republican boy a welder and he will make a swamp buggy out of an > > old VW. > > Give a democrat boy a welder and he will turn it into an objet d'art > > symbolizing the military industrial oppression of the worker. > > > > And that is why there are so many apple haters here... > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield > > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:43 PM > > > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment > > > > I buy all of my groceries at Walmart and most of my electronics at apple. > > There are a lot of apple haters on here it seems. > > > > I can walk a customer through setting up their AirPort Extreme a lot easier > > than Asus, netgear, or dlink. The Apple interface never changes. It's the > > same for every model. The others change their gui quite frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > Brett A Mansfield > > > >> On May 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com > >> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I remember telling a customer he should either learn how to configure his > >> AirPort himself, get AppleCare, or get a regular router like a Linksys or > >> Netgear with a web GUI if he expected his ISP to provide step-by-step > >> phone support. > >> > >> He said he would go out and buy a non-Apple router. > >> > >> He came back with a TimeMachine. > >> > >> That's another thing I hate about Apple, they have to use special names > >> for ordinary things, so people don't compare prices. So you don't have a > >> router, you have an AirPort. You don't have an external hard drive, you > >> have a TimeMachine. > >> > >> But just like some people only shop at WalMart, some people only shop for > >> electronics at the Apple Store. Probably the same people who buy all > >> their groceries at Whole Foods. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince > >> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:06 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment > >> > >> No doubt. > >> > >> The least they could do is to give it a web GUI. Beyond me why it has to > >> be some proprietary interface. > >> > >> bp > >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >> > >>>> On 5/16/2015 10:37 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >>>> On 5/16/15 10:17, Bill Prince wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Plus, for reasons that are not clear to me, Apple has to change the way > >>>> the stupid AirPort admin tool works every month or two. So even if you > >>>> knew how to set it up in August; come September it's a whole new ball > >>>> game. > >>> > >>> > >>> Software developers need to do something. > >>> > >>> ~Seth > > > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com