That sounds like Teligent. I used to work for them in the Miami area. Rode the gravy train into the ground on that one.
I knew they were going down when the announced “Project Bud”. Basically they wanted to tell the investors they had X number of buildings with an antenna. That is all they had, an antenna. No radio or other associated infrastructure. On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:54 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > If I remember right, they also didn’t qualify buildings very well, they > installed on a lot of small office buildings where they were never going to > be profitable. It seems they were just staking out rooftops, not looking at > whether they could make money given the number and type of tenants. It was > also around the time DSL was being rolled out, and some of those buildings > didn’t have a single tenant who needed more than what DSL could do. > > They were smart in getting the leasing agent or building management to help > sell in return for free or discounted service, but if no one in the building > needs what you’re selling, that’s not a good business model, all expense and > no revenue. Smarter would have been to only go where they already had a big > anchor tenant wanting service, or several smaller tenants ready to sign up. > > Or maybe I’m thinking of Teligent. I lump them together in my mind. > > From: Eric Kuhnke > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 5:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hey guys... I'm baaaaack! > > There are still a lot of abandoned Winstar 38 GHz radios on rooftops in > Seattle. That failed because, IMHO, it was just too early. The radios they > used were only DS3 capacity, and back in 1999 or so, routers capable of > building a metro OSPF+BGP+MPLS capable ring and spoke topology network were > costly (did you ever price a 7206XR with NPE-400 when those were top of the > line?). > > With 1Gbps full duplex radios and routers that cost less than $700 per > building, it's a very different game. Combine that with the ability to bring > low cost 10GbE fiber fed circuits into key buildings to get network traffic > off microwave and onto proper backbone infrastructure. The 10GbE optical > interfaces go in the same $700 routers. > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > wrote: > Sounds like ole Windstar playbook...lots of abandoned 31 and 38Ghz ptp radios > left on rooftops > > On Jan 6, 2016 3:22 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> wrote: > Increase the MRC for the customer significantly and this can be done (in a > dense central area of a city) with high-capacity PTP only, zero PtMP, using > 24, 60 and 80 GHz radios. > > Needs an access agreement for each rooftop that allows for a minimum of 3 > radios on each roof so that you can build rings and redundancy. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Craig Schmaderer <[email protected]> > wrote: > I would like to know what kind of equipment you plan on using to deliver > those speeds at that price reliably. I don’t think anything will do that in > pmp mode that I would consider business class quality. So are you going to > be using a tone of license links at $7000 grand a pop? Even at 100 mbps > plan, pmp 450 can not really do that, so what is your plan? Please don’t say > Ubnt. > > > > Craig R. Schmaderer > > CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc. > > Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058 > > Direct: 402-372-1052 > > > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judd Lists > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 6:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hey guys... I'm baaaaack! > > > > Yes, commercial service mainly. I might consider some residential, but I'm > going for the opposite end of the spectrum as I did when I started in this > industry 15 years ago. Back then, I wanted to deliver the cheapest and > lowest cost service to anyone and everyone. Now I'm focused on providing > only the top, highest quality service to the clients who are willing to pay > the price. Oh.. and under promise, over deliver. > > >From a customer perspective, I got a call yesterday from Comcast, to upgrade > >my 65Mbps to 150Mbps for $3/Month more than I'm currently paying and it > >would include TV and the online streaming/subscriptions, etc, for > >$69.95/Month. They pump that to $85/Month after the 12 month contract is > >up. They had a non-contract deal for $79/Month, same 150Mbps plan. > > However, my business consulting clients pay $120-200/Month for just Internet > speeds from Comcast ranging from 18Mbps low end to 80Mbps high end at > $200-205/month. That's the market I'll be after. > > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > You’ve been out of it for 5-7 years? From your description, I hope you are > targeting business customers. Otherwise, be prepared, residential customers > have become very “entitled” in the past 5-7 years. > > > > From: Judd Lists > > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 5:55 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [AFMUG] Hey guys... I'm baaaaack! > > > > Listening in for now. Thought I'd pop on a couple lists since I'm designing > a new WISP and going to be bringing in some investors in the next few months. > > Going to be focusing on delivering 100-300Mbps plans or better (yes, via > wireless) and will be doing some fiber planning for long-term. > > Working on getting the first GigE backhaul and a few POP's allocated. > > Hello again! I've been mostly consulting and doing other things the last 5-7 > years, but wireless is still a passion for me and I love it so much I'm > getting back into it full-time. > > Judd Dare > Mega Secure > > > > >
