Ehh I don't know about that...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 10, 2016 9:50 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
> But it probably costs Verizon $25...
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 2/10/2016 6:43 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> It's $250 new :P
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 10, 2016 8:05 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Are we still talking about a GPS cable for a $100 femtocell??!?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2016 4:16 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the thousands of feet. It is
>> much easier to run, less prone to damage, and equivalent in loss per
>> frequency range.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 4:09 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew 1/2 Heliax
>>> On Feb 10, 2016 2:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's most helpful! Do you have any idea what kind of cable that
>>>> was? I'm assuming anything that will handle 1600 MHz with minimal loss
>>>> will work?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Kirsch <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I spoke to my field guy, he said they took an SMB <-> N
>>>>> Connector and ran LMR to the roof. Hope that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "TJ Trout" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:42:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's an SMB connector, but again I find it really had to believe that
>>>>> if you stick it outside until you get a good sync and power it down that
>>>>> it
>>>>> won't resync indoors, I've never tried inside of a nuclear bunker, but in
>>>>> normal houses and offices with tile and metal roofs I've never had one
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah. Something like that. All I recall is it was ~~ 1/4" or so in
>>>>>> diameter. Don't quote me on that. I am disavowing all knowledge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/9/2016 6:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MCM as in MMC? Like MMCX?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2016 9:34 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Verizon cell extender (made by Samsung) has a little connector
>>>>>>> (don't recall the type, but it's about the size of MCM or so). Put a
>>>>>>> wire
>>>>>>> on the end of the coax, and you're there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/9/2016 10:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How did you get a GPS antenna from the roof to the SCS box?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, samuel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Verizon's Samsung SCS series 3G and 4G Network Extender is what I
>>>>>>>> was dealing with. We had to run our own GPS antenna from the roof
>>>>>>>> down to
>>>>>>>> the basement to get the damn thing to sync properly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As an aside, I didn't realize the Low E windows were code now, and
>>>>>>>> this is a very newly renovated building. Will keep that in mind!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Sam Kirsch, Network Tech Support
>>>>>>>> Plexicomm Internet Solutions
>>>>>>>> Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 <1.866.759.4678%20x109> | Fax:
>>>>>>>> 1.866.852.4688
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [email protected] | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Date: 02/09/16 10:39 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cell booster or gps booster?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually
>>>>>>>>> read the satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on
>>>>>>>>> Android).
>>>>>>>>> We had to install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> damn thing wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> working in rooms where the windows were open and not working in rooms
>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>> the windows were closed. Building management didn't even know they'd
>>>>>>>>> purchased the windows with RF film.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions
>>>>>>>>> | www.plexicomm.net <http://www.plexicomm.net>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.plexicomm.net>*
>>>>>>>>> * Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688*
>>>>>>>>> *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 |
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It might not be just a matter of getting the location. If they use
>>>>>>>>> the 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start
>>>>>>>>> transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Telrad BTS's are like that too. Pisses me off if I ever have to
>>>>>>>>> reset the power.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these
>>>>>>>>> don't seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively
>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>> time to get a lock.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very
>>>>>>>>>> accurately, from inside a single floor wood framed house... My
>>>>>>>>>> oneplus one
>>>>>>>>>> will pick up 6 satellites while standing in a central hallway 15'+
>>>>>>>>>> from any
>>>>>>>>>> window. Should be accurate enough to get a location within 75'.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or
>>>>>>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> to tiny channel size and very basic modulation.
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" <
>>>>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also
>>>>>>>>>>> fail if the GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile
>>>>>>>>>>> of where
>>>>>>>>>>> the customer address is.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the
>>>>>>>>>>> user guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that
>>>>>>>>>>> prevents a
>>>>>>>>>>> VPN?
>>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>> Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A
>>>>>>>>>>> address.� WTF?� Did they maybe mean it *can't* be a class A
>>>>>>>>>>> address?� Customer uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind
>>>>>>>>>>> Cisco ASA
>>>>>>>>>>> firewall (which I don't manage).
>>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>> I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means
>>>>>>>>>>> something is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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