Hey Lewis....we did use a bunch of Huber Suhner cable assemblies and
antennas when we created the MPAA 900....4 90 degree panels with combiner
back in NCR WaveLAN days...we sold about 150 to a Columbian integrator for
a bank project..  wish I could find pictures of it.  Anyways that was
really nice cable.  Pricey but was worth it for some hush hush projects
using Cylink products.
On Feb 10, 2016 8:02 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ehh I don't know about that...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 10, 2016 9:50 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But it probably costs Verizon $25...
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2016 6:43 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> It's $250 new :P
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Feb 10, 2016 8:05 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Are we still talking about a GPS cable for a $100 femtocell??!?
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/10/2016 4:16 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>
>>> Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the thousands of feet. It is
>>> much easier to run, less prone to damage, and equivalent in loss per
>>> frequency range.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 4:09 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrew 1/2  Heliax
>>>> On Feb 10, 2016 2:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's most helpful!  Do you have any idea what kind of cable that
>>>>> was?  I'm assuming anything that will handle 1600 MHz with minimal loss
>>>>> will work?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Kirsch <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I spoke to my field guy, he said they took an SMB <-> N
>>>>>> Connector and ran LMR to the roof.  Hope that helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions |
>>>>>> www.plexicomm.net <http://www.plexicomm.net> <http://www.plexicomm.net>*
>>>>>> * Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 <1.866.759.4678%20x109> | Fax:
>>>>>> 1.866.852.4688 <1.866.852.4688>*
>>>>>> *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 <1.866.759.9713> |
>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>> <[email protected]>*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "TJ Trout" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:42:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's an SMB connector, but again I find it really had to believe that
>>>>>> if you stick it outside until you get a good sync and power it down that 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> won't resync indoors, I've never tried inside of a nuclear bunker, but in
>>>>>> normal houses and offices with tile and metal roofs I've never had one
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah. Something like that. All I recall is it was ~~ 1/4" or so in
>>>>>>> diameter. Don't quote me on that. I am disavowing all knowledge.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/9/2016 6:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MCM as in MMC? Like MMCX?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2016 9:34 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Verizon cell extender (made by Samsung) has a little connector
>>>>>>>> (don't recall the type, but it's about the size of MCM or so). Put a 
>>>>>>>> wire
>>>>>>>> on the end of the coax, and you're there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2016 10:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How did you get a GPS antenna from the roof to the SCS box?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, samuel <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Verizon's Samsung SCS series 3G and 4G Network Extender is what I
>>>>>>>>> was dealing with.  We had to run our own GPS antenna from the roof 
>>>>>>>>> down to
>>>>>>>>> the basement to get the damn thing to sync properly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As an aside, I didn't realize the Low E windows were code now, and
>>>>>>>>> this is a very newly renovated building.  Will keep that in mind!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Sam Kirsch, Network Tech Support
>>>>>>>>> Plexicomm Internet Solutions
>>>>>>>>> Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 <1.866.759.4678%20x109> | Fax:
>>>>>>>>> 1.866.852.4688
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: 02/09/16 10:39 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cell booster or gps booster?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>>>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually
>>>>>>>>>> read the satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on 
>>>>>>>>>> Android).
>>>>>>>>>> We had to install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> damn thing wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver 
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> working in rooms where the windows were open and not working in 
>>>>>>>>>> rooms where
>>>>>>>>>> the windows were closed. Building management didn't even know they'd
>>>>>>>>>> purchased the windows with RF film.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions
>>>>>>>>>> | www.plexicomm.net <http://www.plexicomm.net> 
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.plexicomm.net>*
>>>>>>>>>> * Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688*
>>>>>>>>>>   *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 |
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>[email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It might not be just a matter of getting the location. If they
>>>>>>>>>> use the 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they 
>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>> transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Telrad BTS's are like that too. Pisses me off if I ever have to
>>>>>>>>>> reset the power.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these
>>>>>>>>>> don't seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an 
>>>>>>>>>> excessively long
>>>>>>>>>> time to get a lock.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very
>>>>>>>>>>> accurately, from inside a single floor wood framed house... My 
>>>>>>>>>>> oneplus one
>>>>>>>>>>> will pick up 6 satellites while standing in a central hallway 15'+ 
>>>>>>>>>>> from any
>>>>>>>>>>> window. Should be accurate enough to get a location within 75'.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building
>>>>>>>>>>> or something like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> to tiny channel size and very basic modulation.
>>>>>>>>>>>  On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" <
>>>>>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also
>>>>>>>>>>>> fail if the GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of where
>>>>>>>>>>>> the customer address is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the
>>>>>>>>>>>> user guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> prevents a
>>>>>>>>>>>> VPN?
>>>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>>> Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A
>>>>>>>>>>>> address.� WTF?� Did they maybe mean it *can't* be a class
>>>>>>>>>>>> A address?� Customer uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cisco ASA
>>>>>>>>>>>> firewall (which I don't manage).
>>>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means
>>>>>>>>>>>> something is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>

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