In that scenario...

"Whoa you can go 500 miles and then recharge in 2 minutes to go another 500
miles?!  Over and over?!"

Imagine if semi/cargo trucks were dependent on electric/charging.  The
shipping industry would collapse.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Simon Westlake <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I would imagine that if we were designing cars from scratch today, using a
> combustion engine definitely wouldn't be the choice. I can imagine the
> outcry if the infrastructure plan for new vehicles was to ship explosive
> fuel all around the country, to power vehicles that will emit huge amounts
> of pollution versus having charging stations everywhere.
>
> On 4/1/2016 9:14 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> I read recently that in the US electric cars were considered the better
> option in the early days (like 1890-1910).  Then we found out Texas was
> made out of oil and the economic argument went the other way.
>
> On 4/1/2016 9:54 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> I honestly wouldn't get in line for one today. Tesla has never been "on
> time", but they make decent cars when they cost around $100 grand. When
> they're "giving them away" for $35,000, it may be a whole new ballgame.
>
> But the arguments for an electric car are getting better day by day. In 18
> months or so, they may tip over to the point of working for a majority of
> buyers. I can wait until then to see how it works out.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 4/1/2016 6:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> It does now...
>
> but can it blend?
> On Apr 1, 2016 7:29 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> But does it have SFPs?
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 01, 2016 7:17 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>
>> Coal? Mine is mostly nuclear. I'd imagine for others it may be mostly
>> hydro.
>>
>>
>>
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>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:36:49 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>
>> Coal and oil are kind of the same source for energy.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
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>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Apr 1, 2016 12:33 AM, "Chuck Hogg" < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> At a pretty cheaper cost too.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Mike Hammett < <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You're just replacing a pump with a plug into a wall or charging
>>>> station. No difference. Same actions, just different object.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
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>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>>> *To: * <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:28:36 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>
>>>> But you don’t.  That is the point.  I have a charger at home and at
>>>> work and at my other work.  3-5 seconds.  None if  you have a passenger do
>>>> it for you...
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:25 PM
>>>> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>
>>>> You still have most of those hassles with electric. You still have them
>>>> all if you're not at a free charging location.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
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>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
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>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>>> *To: * <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:17:50 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>
>>>> Time it.  You will be surprised.  5 minutes.  Gotta drive in, park, get
>>>> out, gas cap off, swipe card, wait for authentication, select fuel, wait
>>>> for beep, put hose in, pull trigger.  Wait a couple  of minutes, reverse
>>>> all of the above, stand in rain, snow gas fumes, noise.
>>>>
>>>> From the moment you leave the street to being back on the street 5
>>>> minutes.
>>>>
>>>> And it costs you money!
>>>>
>>>> I charge with solar.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:13 PM
>>>> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We drive past gas stations every day.  It's what, 2 minutes?
>>>>
>>>> If you travel >200 miles your time table is screwed as you need to
>>>> charge.  Your route also can't be the scenic one.
>>>>
>>>> It costs more than my current car which I have today and I doubt it
>>>> comes close in terms of comfort.
>>>>
>>>> Oh and the auto pilot doesn't try to hit oncoming traffic.  That's a
>>>> nice upside!
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> On Apr 1, 2016 12:03 AM, "Chuck McCown" < <[email protected]>
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Silent neck  snapping acceleration and never stopping to gas up...
>>>>> If your daily trips are fairly short, you would only have to plug in
>>>>> once a week.
>>>>> There is nothing but upside here.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:00 PM
>>>>> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if it were 5 seconds that would be more time every two weeks than
>>>>> what I spend at a gas station.  Then I have to pay for power anyway...
>>>>>
>>>>> Not a fan of the front end duck bill.  The rear has too much Prius.
>>>>> Side looks great.  Interior looked unfinished or space aged.
>>>>>
>>>>> 115k preorders for something you won't see in two years, though?  Woof.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 11:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" < <[email protected]>
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It takes 5 seconds to plug in and you wave at every gas station as
>>>>>> you pass it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:02 PM
>>>>>> *To:* <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No interest really.  Plugging in every time I get home?  Yuck.  I
>>>>>> love the updates they do with the Model S and the API power is really
>>>>>> awesome, but I'm more for NA over boost, let alone electric.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw the website and thought "Who's going to preorder a car that
>>>>>> won't be announced for another hour?". IPhone users :P
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 10:57 PM, "Simon Westlake" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One day!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/31/2016 9:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gerard and I just put our pre-orders in..anyone else?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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