Not sure if you're saying that's good or bad, I'm pretty sure the infrastructure would be a solvable problem if it was a choice of that or building an entire fuel supply infrastructure from scratch.

On 4/1/2016 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
In that scenario...

"Whoa you can go 500 miles and then recharge in 2 minutes to go another 500 miles?! Over and over?!"

Imagine if semi/cargo trucks were dependent on electric/charging. The shipping industry would collapse.


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On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Simon Westlake <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I would imagine that if we were designing cars from scratch today,
    using a combustion engine definitely wouldn't be the choice. I can
    imagine the outcry if the infrastructure plan for new vehicles was
    to ship explosive fuel all around the country, to power vehicles
    that will emit huge amounts of pollution versus having charging
    stations everywhere.

    On 4/1/2016 9:14 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
    I read recently that in the US electric cars were considered the
    better option in the early days (like 1890-1910). Then we found
    out Texas was made out of oil and the economic argument went the
    other way.

    On 4/1/2016 9:54 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
    I honestly wouldn't get in line for one today. Tesla has never
    been "on time", but they make decent cars when they cost around
    $100 grand. When they're "giving them away" for $35,000, it may
    be a whole new ballgame.

    But the arguments for an electric car are getting better day by
    day. In 18 months or so, they may tip over to the point of
    working for a majority of buyers. I can wait until then to see
    how it works out.

    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 4/1/2016 6:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

    It does now...

    but can it blend?

    On Apr 1, 2016 7:29 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        But does it have SFPs?
        *From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent:* Friday, April 01, 2016 7:17 AM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting
        one?
        Coal? Mine is mostly nuclear. I'd imagine for others it may
        be mostly hydro.



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        *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:36:49 PM
        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting
        one?

        Coal and oil are kind of the same source for energy.

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        On Apr 1, 2016 12:33 AM, "Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            At a pretty cheaper cost too.
            Regards,
            Chuck
            On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Mike Hammett
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                You're just replacing a pump with a plug into a
                wall or charging station. No difference. Same
                actions, just different object.



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                *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:28:36 PM

                *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is
                getting one?

                But you don’t.  That is the point. I have a charger
                at home and at work and at my other work. 3-5
                seconds. None if  you have a passenger do it for you...
                *From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:25 PM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is
                getting one?
                You still have most of those hassles with electric.
                You still have them all if you're not at a free
                charging location.



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                *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:17:50 PM
                *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is
                getting one?

                Time it. You will be surprised.  5 minutes. Gotta
                drive in, park, get out, gas cap off, swipe card,
                wait for authentication, select fuel, wait for
                beep, put hose in, pull trigger. Wait a couple of
                minutes, reverse all of the above, stand in rain,
                snow gas fumes, noise.
                From the moment you leave the street to being back
                on the street 5 minutes.
                And it costs you money!
                I charge with solar.
                *From:* Josh Luthman
                <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:13 PM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is
                getting one?

                We drive past gas stations every day.  It's what, 2
                minutes?

                If you travel >200 miles your time table is screwed
                as you need to charge.  Your route also can't be
                the scenic one.

                It costs more than my current car which I have
                today and I doubt it comes close in terms of comfort.

                Oh and the auto pilot doesn't try to hit oncoming
                traffic. That's a nice upside!

                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
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                On Apr 1, 2016 12:03 AM, "Chuck McCown"
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Silent neck  snapping acceleration and never
                    stopping to gas up...
                    If your daily trips are fairly short, you would
                    only have to plug in once a week.
                    There is nothing but upside here.
                    *From:* Josh Luthman
                    <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:00 PM
                    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who
                    else is getting one?

                    Even if it were 5 seconds that would be more
                    time every two weeks than what I spend at a gas
                    station.  Then I have to pay for power anyway...

                    Not a fan of the front end duck bill.  The rear
                    has too much Prius. Side looks great. Interior
                    looked unfinished or space aged.

                    115k preorders for something you won't see in
                    two years, though?  Woof.

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
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                    On Mar 31, 2016 11:34 PM, "Chuck McCown"
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        It takes 5 seconds to plug in and you wave
                        at every gas station as you pass it.
                        *From:* Josh Luthman
                        <mailto:[email protected]>
                        *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:02 PM
                        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who
                        else is getting one?

                        No interest really. Plugging in every time
                        I get home? Yuck.  I love the updates they
                        do with the Model S and the API power is
                        really awesome, but I'm more for NA over
                        boost, let alone electric.

                        I saw the website and thought "Who's going
                        to preorder a car that won't be announced
                        for another hour?". IPhone users :P

                        Josh Luthman
                        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
                        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
                        1100 Wayne St
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                        Troy, OH 45373

                        On Mar 31, 2016 10:57 PM, "Simon Westlake"
                        <[email protected]>
                        <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

                            One day!

                            On 3/31/2016 9:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

                                Gerard and I just put our
                                pre-orders in..anyone else?

                                Regards,
                                Chuck


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