30 minutes to recharge seems problematic for long distance trips. Need battery swap. http://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-owners-frustrated-by-recharge-waits-1435690694
And which type of vehicle is best in a post-apocalyptic world? I don’t see electric vehicles in Mad Max movies (except for the guitar guy who obviously has some form of electric power available). The best solution would seem to be the Mr. Fusion powered DeLorean from Back to the Future. We will never run out of garbage. From: Simon Westlake Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 9:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? I would imagine that if we were designing cars from scratch today, using a combustion engine definitely wouldn't be the choice. I can imagine the outcry if the infrastructure plan for new vehicles was to ship explosive fuel all around the country, to power vehicles that will emit huge amounts of pollution versus having charging stations everywhere. On 4/1/2016 9:14 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I read recently that in the US electric cars were considered the better option in the early days (like 1890-1910). Then we found out Texas was made out of oil and the economic argument went the other way. On 4/1/2016 9:54 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I honestly wouldn't get in line for one today. Tesla has never been "on time", but they make decent cars when they cost around $100 grand. When they're "giving them away" for $35,000, it may be a whole new ballgame. But the arguments for an electric car are getting better day by day. In 18 months or so, they may tip over to the point of working for a majority of buyers. I can wait until then to see how it works out. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/1/2016 6:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: It does now... but can it blend? On Apr 1, 2016 7:29 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: But does it have SFPs? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 7:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? Coal? Mine is mostly nuclear. I'd imagine for others it may be mostly hydro. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:36:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? Coal and oil are kind of the same source for energy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2016 12:33 AM, "Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]> wrote: At a pretty cheaper cost too. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: You're just replacing a pump with a plug into a wall or charging station. No difference. Same actions, just different object. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:28:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? But you don’t. That is the point. I have a charger at home and at work and at my other work. 3-5 seconds. None if you have a passenger do it for you... From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? You still have most of those hassles with electric. You still have them all if you're not at a free charging location. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:17:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? Time it. You will be surprised. 5 minutes. Gotta drive in, park, get out, gas cap off, swipe card, wait for authentication, select fuel, wait for beep, put hose in, pull trigger. Wait a couple of minutes, reverse all of the above, stand in rain, snow gas fumes, noise. From the moment you leave the street to being back on the street 5 minutes. And it costs you money! I charge with solar. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? We drive past gas stations every day. It's what, 2 minutes? If you travel >200 miles your time table is screwed as you need to charge. Your route also can't be the scenic one. It costs more than my current car which I have today and I doubt it comes close in terms of comfort. Oh and the auto pilot doesn't try to hit oncoming traffic. That's a nice upside! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 1, 2016 12:03 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: Silent neck snapping acceleration and never stopping to gas up... If your daily trips are fairly short, you would only have to plug in once a week. There is nothing but upside here. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? Even if it were 5 seconds that would be more time every two weeks than what I spend at a gas station. Then I have to pay for power anyway... Not a fan of the front end duck bill. The rear has too much Prius. Side looks great. Interior looked unfinished or space aged. 115k preorders for something you won't see in two years, though? Woof. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 31, 2016 11:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote: It takes 5 seconds to plug in and you wave at every gas station as you pass it. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? No interest really. Plugging in every time I get home? Yuck. I love the updates they do with the Model S and the API power is really awesome, but I'm more for NA over boost, let alone electric. I saw the website and thought "Who's going to preorder a car that won't be announced for another hour?". IPhone users :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 31, 2016 10:57 PM, "Simon Westlake" mailto:[email protected] wrote: One day! On 3/31/2016 9:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Gerard and I just put our pre-orders in..anyone else? Regards, Chuck -- Simon Westlake Skype: Simon_Sonar Email: [email protected] Phone: (702) 447-1247 --------------------------- Sonar Software Inc The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software -- Simon Westlake Skype: Simon_Sonar Email: [email protected] Phone: (702) 447-1247 --------------------------- Sonar Software Inc The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
