By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild!  Did you see 
Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential Collection?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY


From: Faisal Imtiaz 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?

I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I am having 
a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my posts you 
will also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in regards to 
how they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking about.  I also 
apologized for this being a personality defect in myself.

The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in the forums.

There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you specifically asked 
for the test to be run in a very particular way, from very particular pieces of 
equipment..... 

My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great attributes, 
however there is one attribute which would be nice to change for the better.... 
Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default presumption of a 'conspiracy' or 
'they are trying to pull a fast one on us'..... along with it also having 
enough fortitude to asking the MFG and or their representatives the technical 
questions before coming to the open forums and taking an opinion poll....

ok, I will now get off my soap box.



Regards


Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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  From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?

  For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work there, 
you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted explanation of 
what FDD and TDD are.

  How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a newly 
released PTP bridge radio?


  On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    like I said before..  ask the question directly... no need for the cloak 
and dagger ...

    -----------
    Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a 
full-duplex communications link that uses two different radio frequencies for 
transmitter and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive 
direction frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the 
microwave realm, the primary advantages of this approach are:
    -----------------
    NO THEY ARE NOT FDD.

    ------------
    Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex 
communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and 
receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is 
switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies to 
microwave communication are:
    ------------------
    YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give this 
away ! )

    Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware updates. 
The published specs are 'conservative'. 

    These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I think you 
will need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep comparing them to 
the other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market place.

    Anything else you would like to know ? 

    Feel free to ask...... 

    BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the company 
(would love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers of the 
product... There is something about the tone of your question that is rubbing 
me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I normally  expect 
the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question directly, and only if 
that is not answered or if the answer is not straight forward then it is ok to 
imply some intentional obfuscation.....  not the other way around !

    :)



    Faisal Imtiaz
    Snappy Internet & Telecom
    7266 SW 48 Street
    Miami, FL 33155
    Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

    Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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      From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?

      I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them with 
existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions.


      The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say 
specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band:

      
http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf




      On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ?

        Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run....

        Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these 
radios ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times...
        the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you 500meg 
x 500meg performance.)

        The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is 
showing 700meg x 700meg performance....

        What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about the 
specs, buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple laptop 
of your choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or someone will 
be happy to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as it is ....

        :)

        Regards.

        Faisal Imtiaz
        Snappy Internet & Telecom
        7266 SW 48 Street
        Miami, FL 33155
        Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

        Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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          From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
          To: [email protected]
          Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM
          Subject: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?

          Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet?  Preferably 
with something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux plugged into 
each end.





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