Now that we know it is just a misunderstanding we can all get along again...




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Joshaven Potter
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> On Apr 4, 2016, at 8:03 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I am 
> having a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my 
> posts you will also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in 
> regards to how they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking 
> about.  I also apologized for this being a personality defect in myself.
> 
> The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in the 
> forums.
> 
>  There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you specifically 
> asked for the test to be run in a very particular way, from very particular 
> pieces of equipment..... 
> 
> My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great 
> attributes, however there is one attribute which would be nice to change for 
> the better.... Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default presumption of 
> a 'conspiracy' or 'they are trying to pull a fast one on us'..... along with 
> it also having enough fortitude to asking the MFG and or their 
> representatives the technical questions before coming to the open forums and 
> taking an opinion poll....
> 
> ok, I will now get off my soap box.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
> 
> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
> For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work there, 
> you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted explanation of 
> what FDD and TDD are.
> 
> How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a newly 
> released PTP bridge radio?
> 
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> like I said before..  ask the question directly... no need for the cloak and 
> dagger ...
> 
> -----------
> Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a full-duplex 
> communications link that uses two different radio frequencies for transmitter 
> and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive direction 
> frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the microwave 
> realm, the primary advantages of this approach are:
> -----------------
> NO THEY ARE NOT FDD.
> 
> ------------
> Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex 
> communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and 
> receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is 
> switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies to 
> microwave communication are:
> ------------------
> YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give this away 
> ! )
> 
> Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware updates. 
> The published specs are 'conservative'. 
> 
> These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I think you 
> will need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep comparing them 
> to the other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market place.
> 
> Anything else you would like to know ? 
> 
> Feel free to ask...... 
> 
> BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the company 
> (would love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers of the 
> product... There is something about the tone of your question that is rubbing 
> me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I normally  expect 
> the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question directly, and only 
> if that is not answered or if the answer is not straight forward then it is 
> ok to imply some intentional obfuscation.....  not the other way around !
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
> 
> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
> I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them with 
> existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions.
> 
> The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say 
> specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band:
> 
> http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf 
> <http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf>
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ?
> 
> Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run....
> 
> Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these radios 
> ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times...
> the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you 500meg x 
> 500meg performance.)
> 
> The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is showing 
> 700meg x 700meg performance....
> 
> What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about the specs, 
> buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple laptop of 
> your choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or someone will 
> be happy to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as it is ....
> 
> :)
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
> 
> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
> Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet?  Preferably with 
> something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux plugged into 
> each end.
> 
> 
> 

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