Chuck, somehow you remind me of my business partner.... who goes looking for projects, cause they are a perfect opportunity to collect (buy) more tools... one can never have enough tools !
(He is more into power tools, construction, mechanical etc ...) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 3:36:59 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? > I just tested a cable tester from Ideal that qualifies GigE circuits. > Nice thing is, it will do a data test without cable continuity. > (It also does the actual cable continuity tests too). > I wonder what it would show on a less than 1Gbps radio. $1325 > From: Harold Bledsoe > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? > Sorry to be late to the party. ;-) > I have a few comments on iperf though. Iperf2 is not very reliable at high > speeds. For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better assuming you have > enough computer to push the required speeds. However iperf3 cannot yet do > bi-di > tests. > For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be pretty > good. It's a little complicated to setup the first time but then it is better. > Beware using btest - it uses a single core and can't keep up especially if you > try random data. > Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc. We use Smartbits. > Thanks, > -Hal > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt < [email protected] > wrote: >> Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the promises made. >> We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth does not >> meet >> marketing. >> So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf testing. Seeing >> is >> believing. >> Von: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] Im Auftrag von Ken Hohhof >> Gesendet: Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08 >> An: [email protected] >> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild! Did you >> see >> Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential Collection? >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY >> From: Faisal Imtiaz >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I am >> having a >> reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my posts you >> will >> also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in regards to how >> they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking about. I also >> apologized for this being a personality defect in myself. >> The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in the >> forums. >> There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you specifically >> asked >> for the test to be run in a very particular way, from very particular pieces >> of >> equipment..... >> My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great >> attributes, >> however there is one attribute which would be nice to change for the >> better.... >> Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default presumption of a 'conspiracy' >> or >> 'they are trying to pull a fast one on us'..... along with it also having >> enough fortitude to asking the MFG and or their representatives the technical >> questions before coming to the open forums and taking an opinion poll.... >> ok, I will now get off my soap box. >> Regards >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" < [email protected] > >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>> For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work there, >>> you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted explanation of >>> what FDD and TDD are. >>> How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a newly >>> released PTP bridge radio? >>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] > >>> wrote: >>>> like I said before.. ask the question directly... no need for the cloak and >>>> dagger ... >>>> ----------- >>>> Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a >>>> full-duplex >>>> communications link that uses two different radio frequencies for >>>> transmitter >>>> and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive direction >>>> frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the microwave >>>> realm, the primary advantages of this approach are: >>>> ----------------- >>>> NO THEY ARE NOT FDD. >>>> ------------ >>>> Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex >>>> communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and >>>> receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is >>>> switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies to >>>> microwave communication are: >>>> ------------------ >>>> YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give this >>>> away ! >>>> ) >>>> Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware updates. >>>> The >>>> published specs are 'conservative'. >>>> These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I think >>>> you will >>>> need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep comparing them to >>>> the >>>> other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market place. >>>> Anything else you would like to know ? >>>> Feel free to ask...... >>>> BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the company >>>> (would >>>> love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers of the >>>> product... There is something about the tone of your question that is >>>> rubbing >>>> me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I normally >>>> expect >>>> the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question directly, and >>>> only if >>>> that is not answered or if the answer is not straight forward then it is >>>> ok to >>>> imply some intentional obfuscation..... not the other way around ! >>>> :) >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" < [email protected] > >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>> I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them with >>>>> existing >>>>> line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions. >>>>> The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say >>>>> specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band: >>>>> http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf >>>>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] > >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ? >>>>>> Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run.... >>>>>> Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these >>>>>> radios >>>>>> ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times... >>>>>> the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you 500meg x >>>>>> 500meg >>>>>> performance.) >>>>>> The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is >>>>>> showing >>>>>> 700meg x 700meg performance.... >>>>>> What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about the >>>>>> specs, >>>>>> buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple laptop >>>>>> of your >>>>>> choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or someone will >>>>>> be happy >>>>>> to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as it is .... >>>>>> :) >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>>>>>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" < [email protected] > >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>>>>>> Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet? Preferably with >>>>>>> something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux plugged >>>>>>> into each >>>>>>> end.
