That's a good price depending what it can do.  What model?  I'll give it it
a try.

-Hal

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 3:37 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I just tested a cable tester from Ideal that qualifies GigE circuits.
>
> Nice thing is, it will do a data test without cable continuity.
> (It also does the actual cable continuity tests too).
>
> I wonder what it would show on a less than 1Gbps radio.  $1325
>
> *From:* Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 1:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
> Sorry to be late to the party.  ;-)
>
> I have a few comments on iperf though.  Iperf2 is not very reliable at
> high speeds.  For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better assuming
> you have enough computer to push the required speeds.  However iperf3
> cannot yet do bi-di tests.
>
> For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be
> pretty good.  It's a little complicated to setup the first time but then it
> is better.  Beware using btest - it uses a single core and can't keep up
> especially if you try random data.
>
> Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc.  We use Smartbits.
>
> Thanks,
> -Hal
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>
>> Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the promises
>> made.
>>
>>
>>
>> We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth does
>> not meet marketing.
>>
>>
>>
>> So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf testing.
>> Seeing is believing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ken Hohhof
>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>>
>>
>>
>> By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild!  Did
>> you see Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential Collection?
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I am
>> having a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my
>> posts you will also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in
>> regards to how they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking
>> about.  I also apologized for this being a personality defect in myself.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in the
>> forums.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you specifically
>> asked for the test to be run in a very particular way, from very particular
>> pieces of equipment.....
>>
>>
>>
>> My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great
>> attributes, however there is one attribute which would be nice to change
>> for the better.... Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default
>> presumption of a 'conspiracy' or 'they are trying to pull a fast one on
>> us'..... along with it also having enough fortitude to asking the MFG and
>> or their representatives the technical questions before coming to the open
>> forums and taking an opinion poll....
>>
>>
>>
>> ok, I will now get off my soap box.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>>
>> For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work
>> there, you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted
>> explanation of what FDD and TDD are.
>>
>> How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a
>> newly released PTP bridge radio?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> like I said before..  ask the question directly... no need for the cloak
>> and dagger ...
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a
>> full-duplex communications link that uses two different radio frequencies
>> for transmitter and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive
>> direction frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the
>> microwave realm, the primary advantages of this approach are:
>>
>> -----------------
>>
>> NO THEY ARE NOT FDD.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------
>>
>> Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex
>> communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and
>> receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is
>> switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies to
>> microwave communication are:
>>
>> ------------------
>>
>> YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give this
>> away ! )
>>
>>
>>
>> Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware
>> updates. The published specs are 'conservative'.
>>
>>
>>
>> These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I think
>> you will need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep comparing
>> them to the other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market place.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anything else you would like to know ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Feel free to ask......
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the company
>> (would love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers of
>> the product... There is something about the tone of your question that is
>> rubbing me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I
>> normally  expect the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question
>> directly, and only if that is not answered or if the answer is not straight
>> forward then it is ok to imply some intentional obfuscation.....  not the
>> other way around !
>>
>>
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>>
>> I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them with
>> existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions.
>>
>> The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say
>> specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run....
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these
>> radios ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times...
>>
>> the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you 500meg x
>> 500meg performance.)
>>
>>
>>
>> The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is
>> showing 700meg x 700meg performance....
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about the
>> specs, buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple
>> laptop of your choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or
>> someone will be happy to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as
>> it is ....
>>
>>
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>>
>> Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet?  Preferably with
>> something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux plugged into
>> each end.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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