Ha On Apr 4, 2016 1:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I told my wife this morning that I am going to have to find a rehab center > for an Amazon addict. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 1:47 PM > *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? > > > My wife always complains that I don't need more tools I respond... when > you stop buying shoes, I will stop buying tools...she gives me the death > stare. > On Apr 4, 2016 1:44 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Chuck, somehow you remind me of my business partner.... who goes looking >> for projects, cause they are a perfect opportunity to collect (buy) more >> tools... one can never have enough tools ! >> >> (He is more into power tools, construction, mechanical etc ...) >> >> :) >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Monday, April 4, 2016 3:36:59 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> I just tested a cable tester from Ideal that qualifies GigE circuits. >> >> Nice thing is, it will do a data test without cable continuity. >> (It also does the actual cable continuity tests too). >> >> I wonder what it would show on a less than 1Gbps radio. $1325 >> >> *From:* Harold Bledsoe <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 1:32 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> Sorry to be late to the party. ;-) >> >> I have a few comments on iperf though. Iperf2 is not very reliable at >> high speeds. For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better assuming >> you have enough computer to push the required speeds. However iperf3 >> cannot yet do bi-di tests. >> >> For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be >> pretty good. It's a little complicated to setup the first time but then it >> is better. Beware using btest - it uses a single core and can't keep up >> especially if you try random data. >> >> Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc. We use Smartbits. >> >> Thanks, >> -Hal >> >> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the promises >>> made. >>> >>> >>> >>> We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth does >>> not meet marketing. >>> >>> >>> >>> So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf testing. >>> Seeing is believing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Ken Hohhof >>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08 >>> *An:* [email protected] >>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild! Did >>> you see Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential Collection? >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>> >>> >>> >>> I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I am >>> having a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my >>> posts you will also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in >>> regards to how they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking >>> about. I also apologized for this being a personality defect in myself. >>> >>> >>> >>> The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in the >>> forums. >>> >>> >>> >>> There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you specifically >>> asked for the test to be run in a very particular way, from very particular >>> pieces of equipment..... >>> >>> >>> >>> My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great >>> attributes, however there is one attribute which would be nice to change >>> for the better.... Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default >>> presumption of a 'conspiracy' or 'they are trying to pull a fast one on >>> us'..... along with it also having enough fortitude to asking the MFG and >>> or their representatives the technical questions before coming to the open >>> forums and taking an opinion poll.... >>> >>> >>> >>> ok, I will now get off my soap box. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>> >>> For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work >>> there, you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted >>> explanation of what FDD and TDD are. >>> >>> How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a >>> newly released PTP bridge radio? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> like I said before.. ask the question directly... no need for the cloak >>> and dagger ... >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------- >>> >>> Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a >>> full-duplex communications link that uses two different radio frequencies >>> for transmitter and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive >>> direction frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the >>> microwave realm, the primary advantages of this approach are: >>> >>> ----------------- >>> >>> NO THEY ARE NOT FDD. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex >>> communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and >>> receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is >>> switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies to >>> microwave communication are: >>> >>> ------------------ >>> >>> YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give this >>> away ! ) >>> >>> >>> >>> Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware >>> updates. The published specs are 'conservative'. >>> >>> >>> >>> These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I think >>> you will need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep comparing >>> them to the other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market place. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anything else you would like to know ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Feel free to ask...... >>> >>> >>> >>> BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the company >>> (would love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers of >>> the product... There is something about the tone of your question that is >>> rubbing me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I >>> normally expect the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question >>> directly, and only if that is not answered or if the answer is not straight >>> forward then it is ok to imply some intentional obfuscation..... not the >>> other way around ! >>> >>> >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>> >>> I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them with >>> existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions. >>> >>> The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say >>> specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band: >>> >>> >>> http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run.... >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these >>> radios ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times... >>> >>> the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you 500meg x >>> 500meg performance.) >>> >>> >>> >>> The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is >>> showing 700meg x 700meg performance.... >>> >>> >>> >>> What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about the >>> specs, buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple >>> laptop of your choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or >>> someone will be happy to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as >>> it is .... >>> >>> >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM >>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >>> >>> Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet? Preferably >>> with something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux plugged >>> into each end. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
