Sorry to be late to the party.  ;-)

I have a few comments on iperf though.  Iperf2 is not very reliable at high
speeds.  For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better assuming you
have enough computer to push the required speeds.  However iperf3 cannot
yet do bi-di tests.

For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be
pretty good.  It's a little complicated to setup the first time but then it
is better.  Beware using btest - it uses a single core and can't keep up
especially if you try random data.

Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc.  We use Smartbits.

Thanks,
-Hal

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the promises made.
>
>
>
> We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth does not
> meet marketing.
>
>
>
> So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf testing.
> Seeing is believing.
>
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>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Ken Hohhof
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08
> *An:* [email protected]
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>
>
>
> By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild!  Did
> you see Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential Collection?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY
>
>
>
> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>
>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>
>
>
> I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I am
> having a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my
> posts you will also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in
> regards to how they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking
> about.  I also apologized for this being a personality defect in myself.
>
>
>
> The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in the
> forums.
>
>
>
> There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you specifically
> asked for the test to be run in a very particular way, from very particular
> pieces of equipment.....
>
>
>
> My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great
> attributes, however there is one attribute which would be nice to change
> for the better.... Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default
> presumption of a 'conspiracy' or 'they are trying to pull a fast one on
> us'..... along with it also having enough fortitude to asking the MFG and
> or their representatives the technical questions before coming to the open
> forums and taking an opinion poll....
>
>
>
> ok, I will now get off my soap box.
>
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>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>
> For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work
> there, you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted
> explanation of what FDD and TDD are.
>
> How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a
> newly released PTP bridge radio?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> like I said before..  ask the question directly... no need for the cloak
> and dagger ...
>
>
>
> -----------
>
> Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a
> full-duplex communications link that uses two different radio frequencies
> for transmitter and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive
> direction frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the
> microwave realm, the primary advantages of this approach are:
>
> -----------------
>
> NO THEY ARE NOT FDD.
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex
> communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and
> receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is
> switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies to
> microwave communication are:
>
> ------------------
>
> YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give this
> away ! )
>
>
>
> Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware updates.
> The published specs are 'conservative'.
>
>
>
> These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I think
> you will need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep comparing
> them to the other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market place.
>
>
>
> Anything else you would like to know ?
>
>
>
> Feel free to ask......
>
>
>
> BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the company
> (would love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers of
> the product... There is something about the tone of your question that is
> rubbing me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I
> normally  expect the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question
> directly, and only if that is not answered or if the answer is not straight
> forward then it is ok to imply some intentional obfuscation.....  not the
> other way around !
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>
> I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them with
> existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions.
>
> The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say
> specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band:
>
> http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ?
>
>
>
> Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run....
>
>
>
> Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these
> radios ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times...
>
> the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you 500meg x
> 500meg performance.)
>
>
>
> The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is
> showing 700meg x 700meg performance....
>
>
>
> What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about the
> specs, buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple
> laptop of your choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or
> someone will be happy to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as
> it is ....
>
>
>
> :)
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests?
>
> Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet?  Preferably with
> something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux plugged into
> each end.
>
>
>
>
>
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