Anything that goes horizontal or has to be buried I look closely at fiber as converters and sfp mods are becoming very attractive in price. Vertical I will only do 200 linear feet and thats pushing it with Cat5e superior essex copper shield. The hybrid fiber solution is much more resilient to numerous issues found when vertical and distance is concerned.

On 06/12/2017 08:40 PM, David Coudron wrote:

As an update on my earlier message. We spent the better part of two days terminating lots of Cat6a shielded outdoor burial cable. We used this because we couldn’t get pre-terminated Cat6a, only Cat6 at a reasonable price (although we may not have spent enough time looking). These are for longer runs were we are worried about the length limitation of Cat6 for 10gig. All I can say is what a huge pain these Cat6a ends are. The loader bars are flimsy as heck, and don’t typically line up the wires well enough. We got better as the days went on, but still saw a failure rate of 10-25% terminating these cables. On normal Cat5e terminations, we are surprised if we get 1 in 100 that are bad. We are looking for something different in the future. We will continue to buy pre-terminated for runs under 50 meters, and if we can find some decent pricing on Cat6a pre-terminated we are heading in that direction. Way too much time spent putting cable ends on…….

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*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
*Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 5:38 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation

Cat5E Superior Essex with shielded heads bonded to shield at the radio.

ONE AND DONE!

On 6/8/2017 8:02 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

    Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2 FM
    stations so we're having to do everything we can to mitigate
    interference.  The other problem is a mystery since it's on a
    decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.

    David Coudron wrote:

        We are just starting to install a number of towers where we
        are using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those where
        the cabinets won't be on top of the tower.  For the ones that
are on top of the tower we ordered pre-terminated cables. Just too much hassle for the cost. For those where we had to
        run cable to the top we ordered new quiktex ends since they
        use the regular old crimpers. We couldn't find any ends to
        work with our Ez rj45 crimper. We will be terminating those
        cables the next few days.

        We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and it
        works fine now.  We initially had issues with the Ethernet
        ports dropping and replaced POEs and were considering
        recabling. However fixing the RF link interference issues and
        some firmware upgrades have really stabilized those Ethernet
        ports now.  We haven't had an Ethernet port go down in 10
        months since we did that work. (I am currently knocking on
        wood. 🙂)

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        <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Christopher Gray
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        *Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:20:38 AM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
        I bought some Shireen Cat6 to try. The OD of the insulation on
        the Shireen Cat6 (and other Cat6 cables I've found so far)
        make it unusable with the EZ-RJ45 plugs. So, I ended up
        purchasing new plugs, and should have purchased a new crimper.

        I later asked here about using Cat6 with Mimosa and got a
        fairly resounding "Cat5e is enough" at the time. In the end,
        it seemed like a giant pain for any spot other than having
        great interference.



        On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Jay Weekley
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            We recently received a recommendation from Mimosa to
        replace our
            shielded Cat 5 with Cat6.  We've been using Shireen lately
        and
            they have a Cat 6 product. What would you use?  Has anyone
        had
            problems with using Cat 5 with Mimosa?



        
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