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On 06/13/2017 08:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Agreed. Stop using copper.
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*From: *"Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Monday, June 12, 2017 10:53:09 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
For 10gig go fiber. 10gig on copper comes with too many caveats IMO.
If you're going to learn new tools and techniques anyway, might as
well be fiber.
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From: "David Coudron" <[email protected]
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To: "[email protected]" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: 6/12/2017 9:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
As an update on my earlier message. We spent the better part of
two days terminating lots of Cat6a shielded outdoor burial
cable. We used this because we couldn’t get pre-terminated
Cat6a, only Cat6 at a reasonable price (although we may not have
spent enough time looking). These are for longer runs were we
are worried about the length limitation of Cat6 for 10gig. All I
can say is what a huge pain these Cat6a ends are. The loader
bars are flimsy as heck, and don’t typically line up the wires
well enough. We got better as the days went on, but still saw a
failure rate of 10-25% terminating these cables. On normal Cat5e
terminations, we are surprised if we get 1 in 100 that are bad.
We are looking for something different in the future. We will
continue to buy pre-terminated for runs under 50 meters, and if we
can find some decent pricing on Cat6a pre-terminated we are
heading in that direction. Way too much time spent putting cable
ends on…….
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*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
*Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 5:38 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
Cat5E Superior Essex with shielded heads bonded to shield at the
radio.
ONE AND DONE!
On 6/8/2017 8:02 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
Cat 5 should be sufficient but one radio shares a tower with 2
FM stations so we're having to do everything we can to
mitigate interference. The other problem is a mystery since
it's on a decommission water tank with no other radios than ours.
David Coudron wrote:
We are just starting to install a number of towers where
we are using Mimosa equipment and have run Cat6a for those
where the cabinets won't be on top of the tower. For the
ones that are on top of the tower we ordered
pre-terminated cables. Just too much hassle for the cost.
For those where we had to run cable to the top we ordered
new quiktex ends since they use the regular old crimpers.
We couldn't find any ends to work with our Ez rj45
crimper. We will be terminating those cables the next few
days.
We do have Mimosa equipment installed with Cat5e cable and
it works fine now. We initially had issues with the
Ethernet ports dropping and replaced POEs and were
considering recabling. However fixing the RF link
interference issues and some firmware upgrades have really
stabilized those Ethernet ports now. We haven't had an
Ethernet port go down in 10 months since we did that work.
(I am currently knocking on wood. 🙂)
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*From:* Af <[email protected]>
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Gray <[email protected]>
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*Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 7:20:38 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shielded Cat6 recommendation
I bought some Shireen Cat6 to try. The OD of the
insulation on the Shireen Cat6 (and other Cat6 cables I've
found so far) make it unusable with the EZ-RJ45 plugs. So,
I ended up purchasing new plugs, and should have purchased
a new crimper.
I later asked here about using Cat6 with Mimosa and got a
fairly resounding "Cat5e is enough" at the time. In the
end, it seemed like a giant pain for any spot other than
having great interference.
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Jay Weekley
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<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We recently received a recommendation from Mimosa to
replace our
shielded Cat 5 with Cat6. We've been using Shireen
lately and
they have a Cat 6 product. What would you use? Has
anyone had
problems with using Cat 5 with Mimosa?
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