Steve: My (misguided) vision when I first heard about OpenCog was as a platform
for developing advanced AI components to drop into business and other systems,
that further development would eventually morph into something MUCH more.
Well you’re getting a tinge warm.
The next big deal will be creating a GGUI – the first ever General Graphics
User Interface – to direct “all” kinds of robots (in the future) – tied to a
GROS (General Robot Operating System). This will be where the next Gates/Brins
will emerge.
Willow Garage are moving towards this in terms of establishing a common ROS
with a common library of robotic programs. But they’re not thinking yet AFAIK
in truly general/AGI terms. S.o. will get there soon.
{You seem to be reaching confusedly for the idea of a common AGI OS. S.o. else
here also thought about this. Yes, if you think about it, we need to achieve a
common General Operating System (truly general) onto which different projects
can build – so there can be creative synergies. At the moment, all we have is
creative dissipation)..
From: Steve Richfield
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:02 PM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] Waning activity
Mike,
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote:
I wonder whether the time-bound promises that AGI systembuilders have made
are starting to wear thin – and too many have failed. AGI has made zero
progress whatsoever in terms of its stated goals.
You have just touched on one of my BIG past points - that the AGI community
desperately needed to state a long list of sub-goals and interim benchmarks on
their way to ultimate success. All I got in return were responses amounting to
"don't both me, because I'll have it running pretty soon". That time has now
come and gone. Ben and others need to list their goals and benchmarks ASAP, or
kiss AGI and their careers goodbye.
As discussed before, “systems AGI” (building an AGI system) is an extremely
wild fantasy for now. My prediction is a more practical AGI – robot sub-AGI’s
capable of a general range of simple tasks without any programming, will be the
next, realistic focus.
This sounds like a good candidate for the above-mentioned list.
My (misguided) vision when I first heard about OpenCog was as a platform for
developing advanced AI components to drop into business and other systems, that
further development would eventually morph into something MUCH more. Perhaps I
missed something, but I never found that commercially usable platform.
AGI needs a PATH, and NOT just an ultimate GOAL. People are now voting with
their feet because there is still NOTHING of present value in AGI.
Steve
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