I am still working on the p vs np thing regardless of what anyone says and I still feel that the issue of the rationality of faith cannot be dependent on basic success, since a variety of different kinds of people with different beliefs can be successful. But it can be dependent on the forecasting of an extremely unlikely event just because it is so unlikely that you would be left with few viable alternatives to explain it. This seems like a fundamental necessity in the use of prediction (based on non- explicit combinatorial prediction) as a strong rational marker of the appropriateness of the theory in which the prediction was developed. The idea that some people in this group, who have exaggerated the role of prediction in AGI over and over, were unable to differentiate between what I was actually saying and their translation of what I said is indicative of a weakness in their fundamental AGI theory. In other words, if a hypothetical weighted/probabilistic AGI program had a false theory that was associated with a valid prediction it could forever be confused by the association since the weighting would not be able to disassociate the false theory - even for many basic cases. Only by imagining alternative theories and then trying to find ways to prove or disprove the theories can you hope to reliably disassociate a false theory from a valid prediction which happened to be frequently coincident to it.
But it is a relief to be freed from always wanting people to take me seriously on this. Jim Bromer On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM, John G. Rose <[email protected]> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Bromer [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> I meant the p-np thing. > > How could anyone not like the God told me P=NP thing? How could anyone not > like that? After how many mathematical discoveries throughout history were > made that way. > > Fucking commie bastards. > > John > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10561250-164650b2 > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
