The lifetime for the person who lives the longest. If I go first, then the bet 
is off.
 
--- On Tue, 9/25/12, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Jim Bromer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [agi] Waning activity
To: "AGI" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 9:51 AM



What kind of time frame?
 

 
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Eric B. Ramsay <[email protected]> wrote:





I will wager $100 that NO breakthrough will arise from any of the persons who 
are frequent contributors to this list.

--- On Tue, 9/25/12, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> 

Subject: Re: [agi] Waning activity
To: "AGI" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2012, 9:21 AM







 
I have to admit that I am not that impressed with Ben Goertzel's "experienced, 
"professional" AGI researchers," because they just have not solved the kinds of 
problems that need to be solved.
 


Yes, nobody has solved the AGI problem yet.

However, there are some folks who are working hard at trying to solve the AGI 
problem, and who quit the list due to not being amused by wading through email 
discussions on peoples' alleged divine inspiration, their experiments with body 
temperature modification, their idea that AGI should be pursued only via 
networking together humans, the idea that all AGI researchers are deluded fools 
who don't understand the nature of general intelligence, etc. etc. ;/ ....    

So I guess there are two separate qualities here

A) being experienced and professional at AGI work

B) having low tolerance for large volumes of digressive, flaky-looking dialogue

and I have observed that "A implies B" with a reasonably high truth value ;)

I am certainly open to the possibility that the great practical AGI 
breakthrough will come from an amateur newbie, and even from someone who liked 
to post digressive-looking messages.  Innovation can come from all sorts of 
wacky places as history shows!!

-- Ben





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