MT said,
"Creativity does indeed involve a) the incorporation of, and b) adaptation,
to **new elements**. And it is in no way a mechanical problem for a robot –
it is merely impossible for a standalone computer."
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When a person talks about AGI he is not talking about a "standalone
computer" algorithm, he is talking about a computer program that is
responding to Input and is able to produce some kind of Output.  The
computer that controls a robot is not a different kind of thing than a
desktop computer in the essential nature that they only respond to
***DATA***.  I do believe that IO Data Environment has to have a certain
range of kinds of data 'objects' which exhibit certain kinds of relations
to allow true AGI to emerge, but that is not limited to the robotic IO
world.

The notion that there is something so different about a robot that it would
literally enable general intelligence which would otherwise be *completely
impossible* for a computer (that is not controlling a robot) is just not
borne of an insightful understanding of what a computer is or how it works.

Yes, an AGI program has to have some sort of Input-Output and it has to
react to the things that happen in the IO Data environment.  It also has to
react creatively.  But the idea that an AGI program would *only* work if it
is attached to a robot is not based on sound reasoning and it is not based
on actual experimentation.  Robotic AI/AGI has not advanced any further and
it is not advancing any faster than other forms of AI/AGI research.

The theory that AGI can only work if it is a part of a robot has no basis
in actual experimentation and it is not based on a well reasoned insight
into the essential nature of how a computer works.

Jim  Bromer



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