Speaking of AI applications, I'm curious what people think of recent directions 
in NLP and QA systems being explored? Say IBM Watson vs Google? Which do people 
think has the better potential to expand and is the right direction to go in 
comercializing AI systems? When I say expand, I mean the potential for creating 
more generality in current AI systems (with the understanding that it's not 
true AGI work). 





On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 2:15 PM, John Rose <[email protected]> wrote:
 
It could move in and take over our functions, our jobs, and perform them
with such drastically less resource consumption and see us as beings that
have competed with almost every other species and destroyed the very nature
of this planet. AGI could compete with us as an invasive species would but
in a way to make the planet restore to its previous health before humans
were here.

I don't see it totally happening that way. I see it more as AGI embeds
itself into our systems of civilization, our governments, corporations, and
slowly renders us over time as being not that important entities, less and
less as spiritual beings, more and more as lower level animals with less
rights, sort of like p-zombies, the individual having diminished importance,
we become herded as sheeple. Kind of like what is happening now as we
acquiesce.

I don't say it will or has to go that way. The future isn't predetermined.
In fact, AGI has the capability to liberate the individual.

There are real things to fear though. It's been relatively calm the past few
decades but at any moment you could have some new disease break out, an
extreme natural disaster, a global famine, an ice age, fear is good. 

John

-----Original Message-----
From: just camel [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:21 AM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] Practical Applications for AGI

Why would it be competitive? There just is no reason. It's a highly
anthropomorphic and contemporary notion of us. Just because we think that a
competitive culture is a fruitful thing to have does not make competition
universal. In fact there have been civilizations that existed (despite
having much less of an abundance) without competition for much longer than
us and way more sustainable.

The problem is that people like Yudkowsky and Bostrom might have an IQ of
over 9000 but they are also spiritually trapped in this belief system of
fear and scarcity and thus will come up with 1000 biased and illogical
scenarios in which AGI will terminate humanity (instead of pointing out that
the by far biggest existential risk for humanity stems from our monetary
system and neoliberal capitalism). Yet there are thousands of people with a
superior consciousness (less inherent
entropy) who are not as indoctrinated by our culture and it makes no sense
to believe that any superintelligent agent would adopt the irrational,
fearful, destructive, de-evolutionary and unsustainable polluted mindset of
the average westener?


On 03/19/2014 01:22 PM, John Rose wrote:
> Only prob it might relegate us as biological waste byproducts 
> unnecessary for its competitive survival.



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