Bostrom is an idiot. Let people familiar with the internals of simulators speculate on such issues. 5-bazillion CPUs would not be nearly enough for two reasons:
1. Computational requirements for simulators goes up somewhere between x log x and x^2, where x is the number of elements, depending on the nature of what is being simulated. THAT is why chip designers simulate at the logic gate level rather than at the transistor level, and why modern CPUs can NOT be simulated on networks of modern CPUs at any finer than at the instruction level. 2. The computational capability of networked CPUs does NOT grow proportionally with the number of CPUs due to inter-CPU communication, most especially where there is wide connection, like our astronomical observations of far-off objects. It would take a capability beyond present imagination - probably more CPUs than there are atoms in the Milky Way galaxy, beyond even anyone's conception of God, to do such a thing. Why would this even be interesting? Now consider - people's belief that they are here for a reason IS a survival strategy for two important reasons: 1. They must keep themselves alive while they discover their mission and perform that mission, and in the process they will doubtless make more people who are seeking their own missions. 2. Those who actually find their missions and perform them will be seen as valuable members of society, so society will reward them in various ways that will probably enhance their reproductive prospects. Hence, don't be surprised if sometime in the future some tiny part of our brains is identified as being there to compel us to find our missions. Bostrom's problem is that he selected a worthless mission. Hmmm, maybe THIS is the essential missing piece of AGI - the motivation at the very top of our respective to-do lists?!!! Steve ===================== On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 2:56 AM, justcamel via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.seti.org/seti-institute/news/life-illusion > > Funny to read in this context ... ;-) Maybe Bostrom will sit down and > meditate and find out about the missing aspects of his theory? According to > his current culturally biased world view it can only be some AGI/Alien > running a virtual reality on a 5-bazillion CPU mainframe ... it can't > possibly be "just" an evolutionary process working on primordial > consciousness that came up with quantum mechanics and this virtual reality > as a way to facilitate consciousness evolution. > > The fun thing is that we have no problem accepting that our "phsyical > evolution" turned rocks into beautiful girls who stream World of Warcraft > games (another layer of primitive virtual reality) on http://www.twitch.tv > ... ;-) Once you realize the "magic" behind this process it becomes very > easy to see how a more fundamental evolutionary process might have turned > primordial consciousness into a high fidelity virtual reality ... > > > On 26.10.2014 03:07, Stanley Nilsen via AGI wrote: > >> On 10/25/2014 06:33 PM, justcamel via AGI wrote: >> > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/ > member/?& > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back full employment. ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
