> I have not heard a *creative* new idea > here that directly addresses and shows the power to solve even in part the > problem of creating general intelligence.
To be quite frank, the most creative and original ideas inside the Novamente design are quite technical. I suspect you don't have the background to understand them. However, I can see there's something else underlying your remarks: a sort of "mystification" of the power of intelligence. I think you'll be shocked when the workings of the brain are finally unveiled and what is revealed is that there are a lot of cleverly evolved modules carrying out various particular functions, wired together in an architecture designed to enable their synergy ... and some of them wired to observe and improve one another in virtuous cycles, using their particular recognition/learning algorithms ... but no magic trick, no super-secret "algorithm of thought" ... In short, I think you'll look at the brain and say "hhmmpph, that's not very creative" ;-p I think you are looking for an "essence of intelligence" that is just not there. The essence is in the emergent phenomena that come about when a sufficiently rich set of components is wired together in a way allowing them to inter-adapt and inter-improve in the context of controlling an agent that needs to achieve complex goals in a complex environment. There is no "magic trick of thought" at the center of it all, that is just waiting for some Einstein of Cognition to unveil it. But you can keep waiting for this magic trick to be revealed, if you like, while some of the rest of us work on actually creating AGI on rational bases ... and more or less gracefully putting up with your continual complaints that because we're not done yet, our approaches must obviously be worthless ;-) -- Ben G ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=66437203-2462b5