From: "Barry Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

OK Tony - so you don't want us to get united with a decent, accurate,
descriptive name for ourselves, so what do YOU suggest is a good 
starting
point for this important issue? Somewhere there has to be a united 
effort
launched, and if it's not a name, then what is it?

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AIRNEWS] definition


> From: Tony Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Dear Kim,
>
> You are a medical imaging practitioner, that's what radiographers do, they
practice
> medical imaging of all sorts.
>
> If I ran into someone I hadn't seen for a while and I said to them what do
you and they
> said to me 'I'm a medical imaging practitioner' I'd think that they had
tickets on
> themselves.  Why do you want some really fancy-nancy name to call
yourself?  Surely
> if you're really good at what you do it doesn't matter what you're called,
people will still
> admire you, aspire to be like you and join the same profession.
>
> We don't need a new name, we just need to work a bit harder on our public
(and
> private) image - and that does hard work!
>
> Tony
>
> Tony Smith
> Senior Lecturer in
> Medical Radiation Science
> University Department of Rural Health - Nrthn NSW
> Ph: (02) 6761 9510 {Int:+61+2+6761 9510}
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/26/03 12:51 PM >>>
>  From: Scott & Kim Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Airnews Readers
>
> A clear message from the symposium on Professional Issues held in Adelaide
> on the weekend is that we need to promote within the health care sector
and
> the public sector that we are professionals.  I prefer the 'label' of
> Medical Imaging Technologist compared to Radiographer however could we go
> one step further and be known as Medical Imaging Practitioner.
Technologist
> in the public arena can evoke images of people in laboratories carrying
out
> experiments.  General Practitioners on the other hand are more readily
> considered by the public to be professionals.  The term Medical Imaging
> encompasses all our modalities and Practitioner is defined in The
Macquarie
> Dictionary as "someone engaged in the practice of a profession...".
> Perfect.
> Go the Medical Imaging Practitioner.
>
> Kim
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>
> From: Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: AIRNEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:21:32 +1000
> To: AIRNEWS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [AIRNEWS] definition
>
>
>  From: Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Rob
>
> I agree about the technical aspects of radiation as I said EMR
> (electro-magnetic radiation) and sound waves 'radiate' but a
> radiographer
> does not really descibe a sonographer as many sonographers have little
> to
> do with ionising radiation and radiographer implies ionising radiation..
>
> Granted that technician/technologist does not entirely reflect us as
> professionals but then neither does radiographer.
>
> It has been said before, that if all MRS's, MIT's, MRT's, sono's can
> agree
> on one solution then nothing could stop us. We just have to agree on
> something.  The Victorian example is close but it still calls us
> technologists.
>
> Nuc Med I presume would come under a similar banner to
> radiographers as
> they both use ionising radiation to diagnose disease.  Unless they want
> to
> be different.  They are an unusual lot.  (yes I have lots of good Nuc
> med
> friends)
>
> Any ideas to replace technologist ?
>
> Dieter
>
> At 15:46 25/03/2003 +1100, you wrote:
> >  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >Deiter
> >
> >Both MRI and sonography use radiation, but not ionising radiation.
> >Radiation is any form of energy that once emitted from the source that
> >will radiate (spread out from a central point). Both sound and radio
> >waves are forms of radiation.
> >
> >I agree that we need some title to incorporate MR and U/S, what about
> >trying to include Nuc Med?
> >
> >We need a name that reflects us as professional - not technologist /
> >technicians as this implies that we are not autonomous and if not
> >autonomous then definitely not professional
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >_________________________________________________
> >Rob Davidson
> >Lecturer & Course Coordinator: Ba App Sc (Medical Imaging)
> >School of Clinical Sciences
> >Charles Sturt University
> >Locked Bag 588
> >Wagga Wagga  NSW  2678  Australia
> >Phone:  02 6933 2503
> >Fax:     02 6933 2866
> >Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Web:    www.csu.edu.au/faculty/health/clinical
> >=20
> >Avoid people who say they know the answer.
> >Keep company of people who are trying to=20
> >understand the question.
> >Billy Connolly's Desiderata  from Billy by Pamela Stephenson
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dieter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 8:44 PM
> >To: AIRNEWS
> >Subject: RE: [AIRNEWS] definition
> >
> >  From: Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >I think we need to move away from the "Radiographer" label.  This
> doen
> >not=20
> >fully encompass both MRI technicians and Sonographers as both of
> these=20
> >modalities do not use radiation.  You could start and be technical
> with=20
> >EMR.  Perhaps we should leave it that these two do not use
> "ionising=20
> >radiation" nor do they "irradiate" people.  We are all medical
> imaging=20
> >technologists or mecical radiation technologists (RT's).
> >
> >If we are going to stand on our feet then we need to get straight what
> >we=20
> >are going to call ourselves.
> >
> >Dieter
> >
> >At 16:24 19/03/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> > >  From: Ken_Spong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >Maybe Radiographer Initiated Opinions might be a plank to start
> > >building
> > >with???
> > >
> > >Ken
> > >
> > >
> > >At 06:56 PM 19/09/2002 +1000, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >The Australian Bureau of Statistics - Australian Standard
> > >Classification
> > > >of Occupations (p. 173) defines a Medical Diagnostic Radiographer as
> > > >someone who:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         "Operates X-ray and other medical imaging equipment to
> >produce
> > > > images for the medical diagnostic purpose in conjunction with
> > > > radiologists and other medical specialists"
> > > >
> > > >So it seems that even in this day and age, radiographers are
> > >continued to
> > > >be defined as personnel allied to radiology/radiologists.  Do we not
> > > >deserve an independent status??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Sarah Lewis
> > > >Lecturer: Diagnostic Radiography
> > > >The University of Sydney
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From:   Wright, Lee [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Sent:   Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:19 PM
> > > >To:     'AIRNEWS'
> > > >Subject:        RE: [AIRNEWS] definition
> > > >
> > > >  From: "Wright, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > >..define what Radiography is/was...
> > > >Responsible Medical Imaging to aid/assist in the confirmation/denial
> > >of a
> > > >medical prognosis/diagnosis...
> > > >with due regard to the minimisation of irradiation and/or
> >interventional
> > > >procedure...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Lee Wright
> > > >Carnarvon, WA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Ong, Teresa
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2002 2:57 PM
> > > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > >Subject: [AIRNEWS] definition
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  From: "Ong, Teresa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > >I have a question for all airnews readers and lurkers,
> > > >
> > > >If I had to define what Radiography, is or was, what would that be,
> > >also RT
> > > >and also sonography.
> > > >
> > > >Can anyone give me an all encompassing definition  or 3 individual
> > >ones
> > > >
> > > >Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >Teresa
> > > >
> > > >Teresa Ong
> > > >



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