Convincing for what?

I am not asking you to pay $$$. I just want to see if I can get enough
interests for a large order of 250+ sets. If there is any further
risk, it is me, not you, who will handle the risk. The phone must be
good for developers/testers otherwise I won't be interested in it.

Look. I am not a business man. This is truly an Android developer to
Android developer talk. I won't expect any consumer/non-programmer get
involved. You may have to buy your snake oil somewhere else.


On Feb 17, 10:02 am, "Michael Martin - MM Agency" <mi...@mm-
agency.com> wrote:
> Hmm, not a very convincing argument...do you have any snake oil for sale?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent Wu [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:00 AM
> To: Android Discuss
> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: ******New Model Android Phone for sale******
>
> Of course I will have to show you the phone, have a few people test
> it, and write at least one full sized review. The company will provide
> english version of manual in a few days with other marketing materials
> including full size images. I want to first see if there are other
> programmers like me excited about a new Android device; if not I will
> never want to spend time on it any more.
>
> On Feb 17, 9:52 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Maybe you could post a link to the manual, some pictures, etc., or are
> > you expecting people to stump up cash without knowing what they're
> > getting beyond it being an Android 'phone?
>
> > Al.
>
> > Vincent Wu wrote:
> > > Yes I know that one it is called OPhone from Lenovo; it has no
> > > connection with the one I am referring to.
>
> > > Any phone order through me will have English manuals and the OS Image
> > > will be English too.
>
> > > On Feb 17, 9:37 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >>> Does this mean a phone sold in china will not have a working Android
> > >>> Market app when it is sent to US? If it is true my little operation
> > >>> will fail for sure.
>
> > >>> What happens if you travel to the States?
>
> > >> China Mobile(carrier) will be selling the handsets & I assume with
> Android
> > >> Market since China Mobile is/will be their partner there. Maybe more
> carrier
> > >> partners in China, but none that I know.
> > >> You travel to the USA with that phone & if your contract allows roaming
> and
> > >> Market allows you to access it whilst roaming, yes.
>
> > >> George
>
> > >>> On Feb 17, 6:46 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >>>> Guys, it won't be possible. Alternative device manufacturers that
> don't
>
> > >>> have
>
> > >>>> relationships with (Carrier+Google) won't be able to complete the
> Android
> > >>>> Market payment fulfillment.
> > >>>> Android is open enough and open for alternative device manufacturers
> to
>
> > >>> use.
>
> > >>>> They will need an App Manager(some branded) for their devices and
> content
> > >>>> other than Android Market(since AM will not be accessible to these
> > >>>> subscribers). Hence expect the growth pattern for alternative
>
> > >>> marketplaces
>
> > >>>> to surpass Android Market in global reach...  till the day when
> Google
> > >>>> Checkout is available globally and have convinced every person in the
>
> > >>> world
>
> > >>>> to submit their personal details (who I am, how I pay, my habits,
> etc) to
> > >>>> Google.
>
> > >>>> For global reach you need local payment options and these are called
> > >>>> alternative payments as each user is accustomed to in their local
> town or
> > >>>> country.
>
> > >>>> Combination of Google Checkout and carrier billing will work, but
> still
> > >>>> handicaped.  Not to mention that its a lot more difficult for a giant
> to
> > >>>> enter local countries and offer payment services without a battle
> with
>
> > >>> local
>
> > >>>> authorities and companies... Though this is another
> corporate/politics
> > >>>> issue.
>
> > >>>> George
>
> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>
>
> > >>> wrote:
>
> > >>>>> George,
>
> > >>>>> Going forward I can see Google only allowing Market on 'phones in
> > >>>>> regions where they have sorted out the payment method because I
> can't
> > >>>>> see them offering and maintaining two version of Market (one
> allowing
> > >>>>> pay-for apps and another not).
>
> > >>>>> As for how many territories they offer payment in, well, who knows.
>
> > >>>>> Al.
>
> > >>>>> george_c wrote:
>
> > >>>>>> A question to all developers:
>
> > >>>>>> Do you think such devices that will start appearing more and more
> > >>>>>> across the globe will have the Android Market client app and will
> > >>>>>> allow its users to have access to the Android Market?
>
> > >>>>>> George
>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Muthu Ramadoss
> > >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>     Oh, right. The shipping and customs will probably cost more
> than
> > >>>>>>     the phone for India!
>
> > >>>>>>     take care,
> > >>>>>>     Muthu Ramadoss.
>
> > >>>>>>    http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914
> > >>>>>>    http://androidrocks.in-AndroidConsulting.
>
> > >>>>>>     On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Cassius <
>
> > >>> [email protected]
>
> > >>>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>         Remember shipping and customs when you buy from China.
> > >>>>>>         For example shipping and customs to ship an ADP1 from USA
> to
> > >>>>>>         Italy is over 90$!
>
> > >>>>>>             On Feb 17, 2009 9:54 AM, "Muthu Ramadoss"
> > >>>>>>             <[email protected]
> > >>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>             If you can post the pictures, then probably people
> might
> > >>>>>>             be interested in them. The more details, the better.
>
> > >>>>>>             take care, Muthu Ramadoss.
> > >>>>>>            http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914
> > >>>>>>            http://androidrocks.in...
>
> > >>>>>>             On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Vincent Wu
> > >>>>>>             <[email protected]
> > >>>>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Well
> > >>>>>>             this is a...
>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> ======
> > >>>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> > >>>>> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> > >>>>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> > >>>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> > >>>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> > >>>>> subsidiaries.
>
> > --
> > ======
> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> > company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> > 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
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